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    Were these good page moves?[edit]

    I just figured it would be a good idea to discuss the recent page moves by User:Virman1996 of Jean Grey to Phoenix (Jean Grey) and Reed Richards to Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards) to see if there is a consensus on whether these were good moves. BOZ (talk) 03:23, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

    Not good moves. While I'm impartial on the Reed Richards one, there was a formal RM that put it at its current title earlier this year. And Jean Grey was always Jean Grey for me. She was not only Phoenix, though, as Marvel Girl was her initial alias. So why does Phoenix get more weight? Plus, the move left behind all the Talk page archives for Jean Grey. -2pou (talk) 05:33, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
    That's true, there was a move discussion for Richards, so I think that carries some weight. BOZ (talk) 11:00, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
    Agreed, and although the number of people who responded to the one for Richards was relatively small, only three users, the page moves for Invisible Woman to Sue Storm or Human Torch to Johnny Storm were rejected. --Historyday01 (talk) 12:57, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
    I believe Jean Grey would fall under the same consensus as Carol Danvers or Monica Rambeau - all three have used multiple identities. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:05, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
    Fair enough, I will move them back to where they were before. BOZ (talk) 17:27, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

    Hercules (Marvel Comics)[edit]

    Would Hercules (Marvel Comics) be considered a member of Guardians of the GalaxyMark Rhodes 13 (talk) 20:18, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

    This would be in response to a conversation on my talk page, although it would be better if people responded here than there. (talk) 21:26, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

    If you look at the Fresh Start section under List of Guardians of the Galaxy members it clearly shows Hercules as a member of the group.Mark Rhodes 13 (talk) 21:43, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

    Well, if he is on a list in another article, that's one thing, but note that list does not cite any sources. Note also that this is the text in the Hercules article: "When Hercules tried to track down his resurrected family, he instead was captured by them. He was freed by the reformed Guardians of the Galaxy. He aided the Guardians in stopping the mad gods, but at the cost of Star Lord's life. Following the battle with Gamora's West Spiral Arm Guardians, Hercules began a relationship with Marvel Boy (Noh-Varr)." Although clearly that spells out that he was an ally of the team, it does not actually say he joined and became a member. If he actually joined and became a member, then this text needs to be edited to reflect that, and if he didn't join the team and become a member then the team should not be included in the infobox. Do you see what I mean? Plenty of characters have been brief allies of superhero teams without actually joining the team and becoming a member; what is the case here, and is the story as written in the comics clear on that? 2601:243:1C80:6740:52F:C87D:7250:594A (talk) 12:43, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
    I think I can assume that no one disagrees with me, that we should have a reliable source showing that he actually joined a team (instead of just being an ally) before we include him as a member of a team in the infobox? (talk) 14:55, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

    Possible comics-related hoax[edit]

    Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malkiel (comics) I found this article while using Special:Random, and I think it's a hoax that has existed since 2006. I could use some eyes on the discussion. wizzito | say hello! 20:34, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

    Serious edit dispute involving blanking of disputed content at Nathan Edmondson[edit]

    Attention, editors.

    An editor contacted me regarding persitent efforts by a person or persons to delete critical content from the Nathan Edmondson article.

    I asked that editor to detail the diffs in question, and they did so. I examined the six areas that have been blanked by the three editors, User:Jonesmaree, User:GrantGoodMensch, and User:Npgordon25, all of whom have edit counts between 19 and 25

    These deletions apepar largely without any just cause, apart from casting him in a critical light -- although some of it concerns sensitive matters that I agree require as many objective eyes as possible. Can you please offer your thoughts? Thank you. Nightscream (talk) 17:17, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

    Well, putting a list of negative allegations under the heading "Personal life" seems in bad taste to me. He was arrested and charged in 2005, but was he convicted? Was that a notable event that needs to be covered? He was accused of sexual harassment. Was that substantiated? Did he admit it? If it didn't get beyond he said/she said, I don't think it belongs on his page. We shouldn't be spreading rumors and gossip.
    Several other removals are suspect, though. I'm not sure why his bibliography was removed. He's notable as a writer, so we should have a list of his works. this seems like a bad attempt at pretending to be offended. Argento Surfer (talk) 19:13, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
    @Argento Surfer: Sorry, I should've specified that I began the discussion on that article's talk page. I will answer your question there.
    If veteran editors/adminstrators could join the discussion, please do so, because now the other editor(s) are engaging in content blanking and edit-warring. Nightscream (talk) 19:15, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

    Is Mephisto an archenemy of Spider-Man?[edit]

    There has been some back and forth on Mephisto (Marvel Comics) about whether he is an archenemy of Spider-Man, most recently with User:Dealmaces in favor and User:Didelphi opposed; so much so that this is currently appearing at the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring noticeboard. Based on the sources presented here, can we make that conclusion? (talk) 14:19, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

    It is tricky. Marvel is pushing Mephisto in this direction, following up on One More Day, having Spider-Man and his daughter Spider-Girl be the ones to defeat him in the future, and even using retroactive continuity to have him be responsible for Norman and Harry Osborn’s madness and subsequent supervillainous transformations, wiping Doctor Octopus’ memory the second time around, even dragging Miles Morales into the mix. It might be WP:TOOSOON honestly, but that is the direction the character is being brought, nearing over a decade and a half now. [1] Dealmaces (talk) 15:05, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

    “I am the architect of your ultimate fall. I am the null. The void. The Hell that hungers... and I'm going to tell you a secret... I’m going to tell you a secret about your life... about why you’ll never find true happiness... because you will always be missing something. Incomplete. Unfinished. And ultimately, no matter how hard you fight, which cause you choose, the battle will always end with your facing... emptiness.”

    Absolutely not. The additions smack of recentism. Argento Surfer (talk) 17:03, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
    I don't actually have any opinion on this, the only reason I've been reverting those edits is because they have to be reverted due to failing to meet Wikipedia's standards.
    None of the sources the user has been citing as references refer to Mephisto as Spider-Man's archenemy, and they're also unofficial blogs, the authors of which don't have any more authority to decide over these matters than you or me. I believe that in order for this claim to be valid, it'd have to come either from an official source at Marvel, or from a considerable number of sources or popular vote, to show that there's some sort of general acceptance among the fandom that Mephisto is Spider-Man's archenemy; none of which exists at the moment.
    In fact, until I stumbled upon one of the pages the user had edited, I had never seen anyone mentioning anything similar, and I even found the statement weird, instantly feeling that the page may have been vandalized.
    If there's any official source that states that Mephisto is Spider-Man's archenemy or any proof of popular acceptance of it, then I have no problem with the edits staying; otherwise they must be reverted. Personally, I'm neutral on this matter. Didelphi (talk) 20:08, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

    I'm not surprised that Dealmaces turned out to be a suckpoppet, in fact I was suspicious that he might be. BOZ (talk) 20:17, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

    Template:Avengers characters and Justice League characters[edit]

    Should we delete Template:Avengers characters and Template:Justice League characters? --Mark Rhodes 13 (talk) 22:46, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

    Absorbing Man[edit]

    I'm pretty sure this has been discussed multiple times in the past, but last week an IP editor added a note to the article that the character was in an early script of the 2003 Hulk film, but was later merged into Nick Notle's character. I recall that this information has been removed from the article multiple times over the years, and it was removed the next day with the source questioned as to whether it is an RS. It was added back today, and I removed it once again, but my edit was undone by User:2006nishan178713 as vandalism. Do we want to keep this content in the article or remove it once again? (talk) 20:24, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

    Mistakes do happen. Sorry my bad. I mistakenly considered your IP for someone else. I recommend you to get registered asap Partha Basak 20:36, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

    It should be removed, and users should not be told to create accounts. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:59, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

    Heads up, as the IP editor has continued to edit war on this article, and with similar content at Doctor Octopus and Vulture (Marvel Comics). (talk) 04:43, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

    A category by any other name...[edit]

    Is Category:Characters in the Marvel Cinematic Universe another variation on one that has already been deleted many times? (talk) 04:51, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

    The category was created and populated by User:(a)nnihilation97 this time. (talk) 10:14, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
    This is a fork of Category:Marvel Cinematic Universe characters, and is incorrectly populated with articles about comic characters instead of articles about the film characters. It needs to be deleted regardless of the creator's status (or note) as a sock. Argento Surfer (talk) 12:46, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
    I apologize for making that Category, I tried making a similar one this year and it was deleted. I see know of how repetitive having that Category and the Category:Marvel Cinematic Universe characters is. I am all in favor of deleting the category I had created. I apologize for all the trouble that I have caused making this. Argento Surfer - (a)nnihilation97 (User talk:(a)nnihilation97, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

    The category has been nominated for CFD. (talk) 22:31, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

    The Union (Marvel Team)[edit]

    I created a page The Union (Marvel Team), however there is not yet enough information to warrant two articles for the individual topic areas so they are currently mashed into one article, The two areas are The Union (Marvel Team and The Union (comics).

    I have currently named the article The Union (Marvel Team) as I think it best reflects the current situation given that the team have now featured outside of The Union (comics), but I would like advice regarding the wiki article naming policy as it is a grey area with multiple actions I could take. ChefBear01 (talk) 20:07, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

    Are these trivial non-apperances?[edit]

    It seems that an IP user has been adding quite a few non-appearances to Marvel character articles, which to me read like trivia. I would appreciate if someone would review these additions to Vulture, Electro, Sandman, Franklin Storm, Franklin Richards, MODOK, Mary Jane, J. Jonah Jameson, and Doctor Octopus to see if any of those changes should be retained. (talk) 23:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

    They are also edit warring with User:Blazewing16. (talk) 03:10, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
    None of those are worth keeping on the character pages. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:02, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
    OK, thanks Argento Surfer. The IP user left me an odd message at User talk: characters, and I notice that they also started some discussions at Talk:Zzzax and Talk:Absorbing Man which are also a bit odd, but for those two articles it looks like something that User:Drmies had previous reverted. (talk) 18:47, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
    Those articles are shit magnets, of course. I see that Sro blocked, for likely block evasion by User:Tornatore2007. Drmies (talk) 21:13, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

    Is that Tigra in the Hawkeye series?[edit]

    A character named Greer appears in the series as a friend of Kate Bishop. A citation was added[2] to the Tigra article to support the idea that Greer is actually Tigra. Does this citation actually support this connection, or is that speculation and assumption? (talk) 23:31, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

    For what it's worth, that edit was undone[3] but someone may try to add it again. (talk) 15:37, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
    And indeed, it has been added back again. (talk) 01:51, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
    It's not confirmed to be her. Just an easter egg, which is common in MCU properties. InfiniteNexus (talk) 05:04, 5 December 2021 (UTC)