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Discussions about WikiProject tasks[edit]

Discussions about new portals or specific portals[edit]

Requests for Admin assistance[edit]

Portal:Iran/Persian literature is not needed[edit]

Portal:Iran/Persian literature is an unneeded and unused subpage of multipage portal Portal:Iran. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  18:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

@Mr. Guye: I have added it to my list for deletion, which is dealt with by an admin every so often. If an admin wants to deal with this, I have other pages listed there too! Face-smile.svg Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 18:47, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 Done Feel free to ping me when there are portal G6s building up. Sometimes I don't notice otherwise. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 20:11, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion requests (2 pages)[edit]

@Amorymeltzer:@Pbsouthwood:

The following pages are obsolete...

Module:Random portal component without box

Requesting speedy deletion per G7: Author requests deletion. Clean up.

Template:Random portal component without box

Requesting speedy deletion per G7: Author requests deletion. Clean up.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:59, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

 Done, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 08:35, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

D-batch request: Bulk[edit]

Portals have been converted into a single-page portal. The following list of subpages is no longer needed.⊂Emoteplump (Contributions) (Talk) 14:18, 1 February 2019 (UTC) @Amorymeltzer:

Extended content
I will peruse through this later. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 14:22, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Oof, that's a lot! I'll try and process these carefully, but just from clicking on one I can already see one issue: Portal:Greater Los Angeles seems to have lost the in the news section in your redesign. ~ Amory (utc) 15:42, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
@Amorymeltzer: Added back the missing portion, thanks for taking note of this mistake! ⊂Emoteplump (Contributions) (Talk) 08:59, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
clock In progress Checking slowly... ~ Amory (utc) 17:53, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
@Emoteplump: Portal:Geography has no recognized content, that section is empty. I think the content/bot templates were removed in this edit. And the Australian recognized content section is looooong and could probably be hatted or something ~ Amory (utc) 19:04, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
@Emoteplump: I'm stopping for now, as some of these are pretty radical changes. Do you have any thoughts The Transhumanist or Dreamy Jazz? I did a bunch that seemed fine — in particular, anniversaries, selected biographies, and quotes seem difficult to maintain and verify — but for example Google, Greater LA, and German Empire are all losing a lot of that content as well has having their individual character changed, and pretty rapidly too. Just want to confirm there's at least some agreement before continuing here. ~ Amory (utc) 21:00, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
@Emoteplump and Amorymeltzer: Thanks for the ping. Portal:Geography had already been restarted/redesigned to a one-page version with Recognized content support by JL-Bot, a populated Did you know section, a Selected geographers section, and an extensive subportals section. I've reverted the latest restart to the previous revamp, and have just added extensive featured picture support. Before restarting a portal, please make sure that it is of the old design (look for "box portal skeleton" at the top of the edit page), and that it isn't manually maintained (has a "maintained" category, or is listed in Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#Specific portal maintainers). I hadn't requested to delete the subpages, because I wasn't sure if we needed to data mine the picture file names, or the picture captions, from them or not. The subpages for this portal are now obsolete. I will look over the rest of the batch, as I have time, over the next few days.    — The Transhumanist   22:54, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
@Emoteplump and Amorymeltzer: Portal:Greater Los Angeles was already restarted September 1st, and received a lot of edits after that. The new restart undid all those, including the subcategories section. I've reverted to the version prior to the latest restart. The subpages of the originl portal should not be removed until we've either mined them for any useful data or the portal gets equivalent quality content from elsewhere. The old portal (before the restarts) had a wonderful pictures collection, and so those filenames and captions should be collected and placed in the Selected images section before the subpages are nuked. A tool for this will be designed eventually, as doing this by hand is extremely tedious.    — The Transhumanist   00:27, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── @Transhumanist: With Emoteplump blocked as a sock, I've restored all of these. I've reverted the changes to the Portal:Australia and Portal:Government of India, but left the change to Portal:Geography as you've reviewed it, as well as Portal:Apple Inc., for which the older versions give me script errors (the last good version is before your edits). I'm a bit annoyed with myself, feel free to slap me around with a trout for a bit. ~ Amory (utc) 15:30, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

@Amorymeltzer: It has come to my attention that User:Emoteplump is a sockpuppet. See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Massdelete (nuke).    — The Transhumanist   21:15, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Repairing the mass-deletion damage[edit]

User:Emoteplump was discovered to be a sockpuppet of an indefinitely blocked user. Therefore, admins have deleted all the portals he or she created.

We need to re-create those.

They can be found here:

Special:Log/create/Emoteplump.    — The Transhumanist   21:18, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Please remove Featured portal star from these portals[edit]

@Amorymeltzer:@Pbsouthwood:

* Portal:Arts * Portal:Biography

These portals were started over from scratch. Whatever content the stars referred to is no longer there. These are essentially new portals built with the new automated portal framework.    — The Transhumanist   10:24, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Why on earth are we replacing portals which have been painstakingly nurtured to Featured quality by formulaic auto-generated text? Certes (talk) 10:51, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
I'm glad you asked. The answer is: because they were abandoned. The same criterion used for upgrading any portal. Those portals, painstakingly built by hand (which is why it was painstaking) in 2006 and 2011 respectively, hadn't been updated in many years, and they suffered the same problems as all the old portals. The excerpts were stale, the tiny selections were dated, the presentation mode obsolete showing a single entry per section per visit, with everything being static. In the new portals everything is dynamic: every excerpt is automatically refreshed, the selections grow as the source page coverage grows, the selections are presented via slide show so that the user can browse through many excerpts rather than just one, and the recognized content sections are serviced regularly by bot. And the excerpts are not auto-generated text, are they? They were written by humans, and then transcluded by computer. Which is better than what they replaced, which were written by humans and then copy/pasted by humans -- once. Computers are much better at copying/pasting, because they can do it faster, which allows for it to be done every time someone visits the page.
Maintenance is also easier. A user can add new material with ease.
More importantly, the tools we have now, and more tools under development will be able to be used by editors to further develop these portals with ease.
But, the main benefit of the new portals, is the vast selection of content they can make available. The new biography portal, shows 20 biographical excerpts in a slideshow, chosen randomly each visit (or upon each purge) from the thousands of featured and good article status biographies, and vital biographies level 4. Thousands. And as those lists grow or are refined over time, they are updated in the portal automatically. Providing the reader with a new experience upon every visit.
I withdraw my request. I've figured out how to remove the stars.    — The Transhumanist   12:28, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
P.S.: By the way, I meant to write "started over from scratch and/or totally revamped." The biography portal has been under development since the beginning of November.    — The Transhumanist   12:28, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
We also have featured image stars, such as in Portal:Geography. That one may be due to inclusion of File:Hohenzollernbrücke Köln.jpg. Certes (talk) 10:51, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
That appears to be a bug.    — The Transhumanist   12:28, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
@Certes and The Transhumanist: The stars are a side-effect from checking for non-free files. The Lua modules check for non-free images by pre-processing local file description pages, and not allowing any with the words "non-free" to be displayed on a portal. A side-effect of this pre-processing is that some things get processed as if they were on the page itself, regardless of whether they actually are used. I thought I had actually fixed this a while ago by wrapping the featured star indicator in {{file other}} [1], but it seems to have come back. - Evad37 [talk] 08:40, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Though when testing on my sandbox, I was able to include File:Hohenzollernbrücke Köln.jpg via both a {{transclude lead excerpt}} and {{transclude files as random slideshow}} without the star showing up. - Evad37 [talk] 08:56, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Found the culprit: {{Featured picture set}}. Fixed with [2] - Evad37 [talk] 09:03, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

d-batch request: Portal:Nudity[edit]

Portal:Nudity has been converted into a single-page portal.The following list of subpages is no longer needed.Guilherme Burn (talk) 11:14, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

please @Amorymeltzer:@Pbsouthwood:.

 Done, Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 12:37, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

d-batch request: Portal:Education[edit]

Portal:Education has been converted into a single-page portal.The following list of subpages is no longer needed.Guilherme Burn (talk) 11:21, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Extended content

please @Amorymeltzer:@Pbsouthwood:.

 Done, Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 12:38, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

d-batch request tabs subpages[edit]

Some tabs subpages are replaced per Template:Start tab and is no longer needed.Guilherme Burn (talk) 11:41, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

please @Amorymeltzer:@Pbsouthwood:.

 Done, Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 12:39, 22 February 2019 (UTC)