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January 18[edit]

How to remove the redirect from page "local Realism" to "Principle of Locality"?[edit]

Dear wikipedia helpdesk.

The page "local Realism" is now redirected to the page "principle of locality" -

The two titles are not equivalent - Local Realism is a concept that joints the principle of locality with the principle of realism, not just one of them. It's a concept of the foundations of physics , with a particular interest in topics like quantum computing and quantum information technologies. There are numerous examples where the concept 'local realism', or "local realist", is used in about a dozen of wikipedia pages.

Examples: Albert Einstein

There are also pages dedicated to:

It seams that the subject is disperse and difficult to understand.

I'm willing to reconstruct this 'Local Realism' page with an Introduction, a chronological list of relevant events, most distinguished physicists/authors, theoretical advances and experimental results aspects, reusing most of the previously cited wikipages.

How should I proceed?

Thank you for your advice. Teresa F Mendes (talk) 03:21, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Teresa F Mendes: Begin a discussion (perhaps a copy of this post?) in a central location such as the talk page of the local realism redirect page. Invite folks who have edited the relevant articles recently to join, and post to the talk pages of any relevant wikiprojects (Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics ?) since it's a potentially large and ambitious set of changes. If you decide to proceed, the mechanics are simple: just edit the existing redirect page to remove it current contents (the redirect syntax) and replace it with your new article. Then go find and fix all the incoming links as appropriate. They are listed on the "what links here" page of the redirect/new page. -Arch dude (talk) 04:01, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: Thank you.Teresa F Mendes (talk) 15:00, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Infinite Flight topic issues[edit]

Hi. I wanted to find how I can contact an administrator over a topic issue. There have been many attempts by people (including myself) to edit this made to make it more modern and I would like to discuss it with a moderator to understand how I can do this. I do have permission from Infinite Flight LLC and have founded Project Wikipedia to help me. If someone could please direct me to an administrator to get this worked out. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by IDubbz4LivesWasTaken (talkcontribs) 03:56, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@IDubbz4LivesWasTaken: You do not need anyone's permission to edit the Infinite Flight article, and we do not need and do not want the company's permission or involvement. You must use information from published reliable sources (see WP:RS), not from the company or from your personal knowledge. If you are associated with the company, you have an unavoidable conflict of interest (WP:COI) and must disclose this and should make edit suggestions instead of directly editing the article. If you are being compensated in any way to work on article (salary, contract, or freebies) then you MUST disclose this and you MUST NOT edit the article directly. see WP:PAID. -Arch dude (talk) 04:10, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
@IDubbz4LivesWasTaken: After having read the link you provided, I'd like to suggest a (re-)read of WP:NOT, especially WP:NOTPROMO and WP:NOTWEBHOST regarding it is important for the growth of IF to branch out and have their information elsewhere and WP:RELEASENOTES regarding I have been working on adding the update history of Infinite Flight. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 05:05, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: I am not partnered with the company in any way, I just have permission from them to edit. I will only keep information in-partial.— Preceding unsigned comment added by IDubbz4LivesWasTaken (talkcontribs) 18:52, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Where to request code quality review?[edit]

I was hoping to see if someone would be willing to give constructive criticism over the current state of User:Moonythedwarf/libavtools.js, and was wondering where i'd ask for this. What board(s) would be appropriate? --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 05:13, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Probably some subpage of Wikipedia:Reference Desk. Howewer, I have already one compatibility one: On one of the last lines, you use Error.captureStackTrace. This is a relative new Technology, contained only in the newest version of Javascript, and will probably throw in older browsers, so you might want to check for its existence somewhere before and add a custom implementation if it doesn't exist or is not a function. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 06:44, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Victor Schmidt mobil, It's v8 exclusive, and is only for debugging. Anything not using chromium doesn't support it. It's just there for now for testing. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 06:46, 18 January 2020 (UTC)


Hi Wikipedians,

My name is Mike Bova. I'm a recording artist "Duncaine", headliner of the nationally touring Big and Tall Comedy Tour, author "Tidbits from the Sales Pit", and actor "Anti-Heroes". Is there someone who can do a Wikiepedia page for me? Please let me know and thank you for your time and assistance.

All the best, Mike Bova — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:1410:C2DF:3CA9:E8B5:43AF:CB09 (talk) 05:37, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Mike and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia has articles, not mere "pages". This is a subtle but important distinction. If you meet the Wikipedia definition of a notable musician(click to review) as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources(sources unconnected with you that have chosen on their own to write about you, not press releases or routine announcements), you may merit an article. You can request that others write one at Requested Articles, but there is an extremely large backlog and it may not be done quickly.
Please understand that Wikipedia is not like social media- article subjects must be shown to meet our special definition of notability. We aren't interested in enhancing search results for the subject, or in what the subject wants to say about themselves. 331dot (talk) 14:57, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
There are people in the world who will take your money and write an article for you. However, unless you are notable by our definition, we will delete the article. It doesn't matter how good the article is. Don't fall for this scam. We delete about 200 articles every day. See Wikipedia:No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. -Arch dude (talk) 16:35, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Emailing another editor[edit]

I'm sure there's a way of doing this but can't remember how... Alansplodge (talk) 13:13, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Alansplodge: Well, there's the Special:EmailUser facility on the left sidebar (on a user's page), but of course if they haven't enabled email you won't see anything / be able to do so. Is that it? ——SN54129 13:28, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
That's the one! Many thanks. Alansplodge (talk) 19:30, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

How to report a bug related to the citation generator[edit]

Hi everyone. I'm using the citation generator when adding citations on article by just using the URL. Sometimes, the citation is not generated properly. Dates are filled into the name field and vice-versa. Is there a way to notify this error to the developer? Sociable Song (talk) 16:33, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

I think you can file an issue here. It requires someone to add a new case in Zotero so it might not be fixed for a while. It's not clear to me whether the Zotero project solicits these requests or not, but if it's a popular website it would probably be good to open an issue. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:46, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
The github page is for bugs related to the software. From what I see, I need to request someone to do a translator (use the software). Do you know how to file a request? Sociable Song (talk) 16:58, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
It seems they also include translator requests at this issue tracker, but many requests also come through their forum. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:52, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Are there any up to date programs that make patrolling new pages easier?[edit]

Only thing I found was User:Kingpin13/WikiAlerter which hasn't been updated in the past decade. Looking for a program like STiki or Huggle. CatcherStorm talk 16:35, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

CatcherStorm, Is Twinkle and the new pages feed not enough? MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 18:57, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Moonythedwarf It works, but I was hoping to find a more efficient alternative. CatcherStorm talk 19:02, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
CatcherStorm, I'm currently working on a userscript for my own workflow, but that's a) no-where near ready for use, and b) see A.
Beyond my own little schemes, I don't really know of a more efficient workflow MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 19:05, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Having trouble replacing an image[edit]


There is a map on this article that is in Japanese/Chinese. It was originally imported from the Chinese version of the page. Since it is an English-language page, I modified the map image to include Roman letters for the place names (here). Wikipedia thinks that the new image is suspicious and won't let me replace it. Any suggestions?

Thank you, Jen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennichi (talkcontribs) 17:36, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Jen. Where are you trying to upload your modified map? (You should upload to Commons). What happens that you say is won't let you upload it? File:The Twelve Kingdoms.png is licensed with the GPL, so you are permitted to use and modify it, as long as you provide proper attribution. --ColinFine (talk) 17:50, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
@Jennichi: I see from [1] that you tried to use an upload method which has limitations. Use commons:Special:UploadWizard instead. Mention that your version is based on commons:File:The Twelve Kingdoms.png. The license requires that. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:17, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you both, ColinFine and PrimeHunter. I really wasn't sure about the attributions, but the wizard was a big help. --Jen

A submission I was considering submitting however I found the information already published in Wikipedia[edit]

On the subject of Auditory Processing Disorder (APD), I was searching for "Auditory processing disorders" because there are multiple kinds of (APD. Nothing came up so I started to create a page. However, I recently found that there is a page called "Auditory Processing Disorder" (singular rather that plural) that has all the information that is needed for publication. I want to delete everything in my draft but do not know how to do that. I will appreciate any assistance to fix the problem I created.

Thanks for your advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UIowagrad (talkcontribs) 18:47, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

UIowagrad, Howdy hello! I will put the page up for speedy deletion as an "author request". We appreciate that you tried to make some new content, we need folks like you who are willing to fill content gaps! CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 19:24, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Why do Wikipedia makes or ignore unfair advantages it does to some companies?[edit]

Some time ago, I have edited the DigitalOcean Wikipedia page, removing the note 34, a link to a so called comparison of DO and Linode. The page, that states it's updated on December 29, 2019 (at the end of the page, on top of the footer), actually does not present an updated comparison. I will only point out two obvious things about why that page is misleading, things that are easy to check even for non-technical readers.

First thing, back in 2015, Linode started to move from Xen to KVM its services. So, Linode, as DO, uses KVM... Second, the lowest price for both of them is $5/month... not as stated on that comparison. This can also be easily checked on DO pricing page and Linode pricing pages.

And as an update, here is the reason why that page have interest in making unfair advantage for DO (hint: because it's a registered affiliate of DO, taking revenue by referring clients): — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:56, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

And I can continue to point out things that is misleading in that article... But my problem here is not that, but the willing of some Wikipedia editors to promote such things, without checking, or without understanding or even on purpose, misleading readers and creating an unfair advantage of a company over others.

I thought Wikipedia promotes truth and doesn't takes parts, but now I start to think there are some groups of interests that work for and have interest in promoting some products/services of some companies and work to mislead readers. And, I could give a lot of examples about pages, mainly in the Romanian Wikipedia, that are without doubt advertisements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:50, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

The english and Romanian wikipedia have different rules, and are effectively different sites. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 18:51, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
To answer your larger query, unregistered editor, the ease of creating an anonymous Wikipedia account means users with an incentive to promote an organisation (e.g. employees of the company) can easily do so by editing or creating an article, though it is against our policies. Fortunately, other editors are adept at finding these harmful edits, deleting them, and blocking the culprit, though not every edit is caught. You are encouraged to contribute by removing promotional content; if you desire, create an account and edit for a short while to be eligible for tools and editing privileges useful for combatting promotional editors. It requires no more personal information than a username and password. – Teratix 23:27, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

AFC reviewing[edit]

Can you please take a look at this draft: Draft:To All the Boys I've Loved Before (film series). I'm inclined to accept it, but I just want to make sure it's OK for it to be an article. Interstellarity (talk) 19:53, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Interstellarity: The correct place to ask for advice or help is WT:AFC (Or possibly the AFC help desk). Another good place to ask is at the appropriate WikiProject talk page. It seems you were not provided with the usual AFC welcome message so I left it at your TP. It's sometimes said; "if unsure what to do, move on and leave it for more experienced reviewers". Eagleash (talk) 20:23, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
@Eagleash: Thanks for your help. Interstellarity (talk) 20:30, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
User:Interstellarity, User:Eagleash - My thought is to accept it, but the argument could be made that the series doesn't need an article because there already is an article about the first film in the series. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:06, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@Robert McClenon: I accepted it. Interstellarity (talk) 12:10, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Moving an AFC[edit]

Quick question. I moved 2020 in Northern Ireland from draft space to main space just now, not realising at the time that it had been submitted for AFC. I think I've done everything I should in terms of accepting it, apart from removing the AFC template from the article. Will a bot come along to do that or do I need to do it? Cheers, This is Paul (talk) 20:52, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@This is Paul: - it's no longer there (it was removed by another editor) Nosebagbear (talk) 23:33, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

January 19[edit]

Restoring a Deleted Article - What to Do About Redirect[edit]

This is about Draft:Ammar Campa-Najjar. There was a BLP of this person. It was then deleted pursuant to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ammar Campa-Najjar (2nd nomination) and redirected to2018 United States House of Representatives elections in California. A deletion review endorsed the deletion and noted that the article could be restored if there was new information to establish general notability. The subject does not currently satisfy political notability. There has recently been discussion to the effect that the draft should now be accepted. However, there is currently a redirect, and the redirect says that it is a redirect with history and should not be deleted. What can be done to accept the draft? The usual AFC script will not accept the draft if there is a redirect at the title. Is human action needed? If so, where do I request the human action? Robert McClenon (talk) 01:05, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: I think at that you can place your request at Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests. If necessary, a history merge of the redirect and the new article can be done. RudolfRed (talk) 00:36, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, User:RudolfRed. I requested that. A history merge is required, or at least the redirect says it has history and should not be deleted. Otherwise I would do a Page Move of the redirect into neverland and move the draft and then tag the redirect for G6. Robert McClenon (talk) 08:04, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Getting load-time metrics for a script[edit]

I'm currently working on my own anti-vandal tool, and was wondering where I could ask for people to measure how fast it loads? It's usually under half a second for me (After loading it for the first time. If the cache is empty it takes about 2 sec), but I imagine it varies across machines. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 04:46, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Moonythedwarf, Village Pump (Technical) might be a place to try. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 08:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Should short descriptions include vital years?[edit]

I have been adding short descriptions, and improving (I hope) existing ones. I was under the impression there was a guideline that the short description for a biographical article should include the vital years, or year of birth - but I can't find it documented anywhere. But some of my changes have been reverted, claiming this made the short description too long. So now I'm not sure whether to include them or not. Can anybody please point me to whether there is such a guideline (or did I just imagine it)? --Gronk Oz (talk) 07:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Gronk Oz, The guidelines are at Wikipedia:Short description (perhaps other guidelines exist, but I've never run across them and couldn't find more). My reading has always been that you should aim for no longer than 40 characters, and that otherwise the guidelines say fairly little. My personal approach has been to only include dates when there is room and it is critical. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 08:54, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@CaptainEek: Thanks for that. I must have been imagining things again... Smile.gif --Gronk Oz (talk) 09:20, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@Gronk Oz: Check out WP:WPSHORTDESC? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 13:50, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks AlanM1 - that was the first place I looked but I can't see an answer there - did I miss it? --Gronk Oz (talk) 22:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

page notice: Karsonya Wise Whitehead[edit]

I dont understand what is required. I checked the source and each of the notes mentioned about this person has a citation.

Copyright-problem paste 2.svg This article or section may have been copied and pasted from another location, possibly in violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Please review (DupDet · CopyVios) and remedy this by editing this article to remove any non-free copyrighted content and attributing free content correctly, or flagging the content for deletion. Please be sure that the supposed source of the copyright violation is not itself a Wikipedia mirror. (January 2020) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mommado5 (talkcontribs) 08:42, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

The notice is not about lack of citations, it's about copyright violation. Specifically, it claims that some part of the article may be a copyright violation of . I'm not seeing that myself; you could take it up with the editor who placed the notice, Souravdas1998.   Maproom (talk) 09:31, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Geographical databases question[edit]

Hello all- I have been doing work on obscure geographical terms in southern Xinjiang making use primarily of the National Bureau of Statistics of the People's Republic of China's index of minor locations and of GEOnet Names Server in conjunction with old maps, news articles, books and scholarly papers. Are there any other good databases that would include minor locations in this area? Here's what I've worked on today: Jiya Township. Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Correction of spelling of name[edit]

Incorrect name: Alfredo Versoza Correct name: Alfredo Verzosa

Thank you for reporting this. I've moved the article to Alfredo Verzosa.   Maproom (talk) 13:14, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Gallery perrow oddity[edit]

On c:File:I Wrote a Full Song in 24_Hours-K7r58jQqK8I00227.png and on 18 other images derived from one video the other versions gallery works as expected, four "Blackery with guitar" in one row for a total of five related images in this subset, with a perrow=4 gallery parameter. On enwiki the perrow=4 fails for File:I Wrote a Full Song in 24_Hours-K7r58jQqK8I00227.png and for me, what is the problem, is it only me, does it work for you?
From a teahouse archive: (talk) 12:55, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. Since nobody replied to the first time, it's a good bet that there is nobody here with both the interest and the knowledge. Help talk:Gallery tag might be a better place to ask, or WP:VPT. --ColinFine (talk) 16:33, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
It's an idea, some years ago this page was better for technical questions and WP:TEA was mostly a friendly space.(smiley suppressed) – (talk) 18:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC)


In the Portuguese Wikipedia, I'm already a rollbacker and eliminator/deleter ( only, basically you can delete and restore pages, and it has the autopatrol function). With that information, is it possible to request Autoreviewer here? GhostP. talk 16:15, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, GhostP.. You can certainly request the right: whether an admin will give it you or not, I don't know. Have a look at WP:Autopatrolled#Obtaining the right. --ColinFine (talk) 16:37, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Question of curiosity: least read articles on Wikipedia[edit]

Is there any way to find the least popular or least read article on English Wikipedia? By whatever definition we might have. I would assume "fewest number of views for the most extended time" (or something like that). And, if not the least popular, how about a list of the "bottom grouping"? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:33, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: Any such list would attract kiddevandals. -Arch dude (talk) 17:05, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: So...?
AFAIK any information may attract vandals, does it mean we should avoid publishing any information at Wikipedia??? Face-surprise.svg CiaPan (talk) 17:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@CiaPan: we should publish those articles. we should not create a list of places on Wikipedia where vandalism is likely to persist. Let's take this offline. See WP:BEANS). -Arch dude (talk) 17:18, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
The pageview data is available here but as far as I can see no one has ever made a "least popular" report from it. I for one think this would be very interesting (but might be full of zero view pages). I don't think this would be WP:BEANS-y since the majority of our pages are unpopular and are only overseen by recent changes patrollers anyways. @West.andrew.g, do you think it would be worth it to assemble a one-off report on this? – Thjarkur (talk) 20:39, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
The long tail is looooong. I can probably run a report for 2019, although it is likely too long to share in Wikipedia format when we consider articles with <10 or <100 views. What is the use-case? Can we move this to the talk page of WP:5000 or WP:Top_25_Report? I also see the WP:BEANS potential here, as watchlister counts are proportional to views, but at the same time, vandalism that no one sees has minimal impact (soapbox: see my prior research, massive traffic pages are a far greater vulnerability if we measure vandalism impact by viewership). But, as I said, I want to know there is some utility here before I dedicate time to custom reports. West.andrew.g (talk) 01:58, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@West.andrew.g: Thanks. No, this list is not something that I "need". It was just a question of curiosity, as my header indicates. I thought it might already exist somewhere here on Wikipedia. In which case, I would have liked to take a look at it. But, if this is a big project and a lot of work/effort ... no, it is not that important. Like I said, I certainly don't "need" it. I was just curious. If it's quick and easy, I'd like to see it. If it's a lot of work, don't trouble yourself. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Same here, no real utility apart from curiosity. I gave up on making this report for another smaller wiki where I wanted to clean up the unread junk articles and find unintegrated walled gardens, but of course those junk articles aren't really hurting anyone since no one's reading them. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Sikh Panth Foundation Day[edit]

I would like to notify that the Sikh Foundation day written as 30th March 1699 on the Wikipedia Page but actually according to Sikh history the day was on 13th April 1699 instead of 30th March 1699. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Please make suggestions for article improvement on the article's talk page, and be sure to include a reference to a reliable source (WP:RS). In this case, the issue may be Old Style and New Style dates. -Arch dude (talk) 17:10, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Technical problem with SVG file[edit]

Even after years of editing Wikipedia, I wasn't sure where to post this; let me know if there's some more technically-oriented board to ask this question. I'm trying to upload to Commons a more accurate version of File:RosettaStoneAsPartOfOriginalStele.svg, before an article in which it appears runs as TFA on January 24. When I try, I get an error message:

"<a> elements can only link (href) to data: (embedded file), http:// or http://, or fragment (#, same-document) targets. For other elements, such as <image>, only data: and fragment are allowed. Try embedding images when exporting your SVG. Found <image"2974d5a2d85405a5.jpg">

I've asked about this problem on Commons' help desk, but nobody has responded so far. I'm guessing that the error is related to the JPG image of the Rosetta Stone embedded within the SVG (I did not edit the JPG when revising the image), but I don't understand the error message beyond that. A. Parrot (talk) 17:17, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

@A. Parrot: your SVG file contains a link to an external URL, and that is (apparently) not allowed, probably due to potential for copyright violations. to cure this you will need to modify the SVG file so that it actually includes the image itself, not a link to it. How you do this will depend on your SVG creation software. Whether to do this at all depends on the copyright status of the image. -Arch dude (talk) 17:26, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: Thank you for your prompt reply. I think the original image was File:Rosetta Stone BW.jpeg. I'm not 100% sure about its copyright status, but considering how many other Commons images incorporate it, I hope it's legit. A. Parrot (talk) 18:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
The file (page you linked to) says it's in the public domain, A. Parrot. --ColinFine (talk) 18:43, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
It does, but the uploaders seem to have extracted it from the European Space Agency page and declared it public domain while doing so, on the grounds that the stone itself is public domain. The stone's etched text makes its surface not entirely two-dimensional, which means photos of that surface are technically copyrightable. It shouldn't be a problem, but I've had to worry about the copyright status of so many photos of ancient artwork over the years. A. Parrot (talk) 18:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
SVGs with embedded raster files are generally problematic on commons: Users incl. other MediaWiki projects (per InstantCommons) should be able to download and use the SVG without further difficulties: No external links loading tracking pixels or causing havoc in offline scenarios, no giant SVGs with raster files in a data URI, no weird scripts for animations (personal opinions, the policies allow more), etc. Also see lots(!) of SVG help + project files on commons. – (talk) 19:05, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@A. Parrot: The URL in the original complaint message was not the Rosetta stone or anything else on Commons: it was a URL at This means it was likely something your SVG editor added for some obscure reason of its own. Your original technical problem is entirely separate from any copyright issue with an image of the Rosetta Stone. -Arch dude (talk) 20:46, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: I see. If I replace that link with an image that's contained within the SVG, such as File:Rosetta_Stone.svg, uploading should work, correct? A. Parrot (talk) 20:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@A. Parrot: I can't say without looking at the .svg file source. My speculation is that the URL is unrelated to the image and is elsewhere in the file. If it were not a .jpg, I would guess it was an svg namespace declaration. Examine the source with a text editor and see what you can make of it. -Arch dude (talk) 22:08, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Update: I've successfully uploaded a revised version of the image, so this problem is resolved. Thank you for your help. A. Parrot (talk) 22:07, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Make emoji to send someone to Wikapedia[edit]

As above emoji to get user in chat exchange to get them to look up in Wikapedia. I've volunteered for you that's my 3 dollars for years thanks Jeffrey Hansen — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:41, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

The Help Desk is for asking about how to edit or use Wikipedia. Do you have a question? Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 20:21, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

contents box on Malagasy Hippopotamus article different then section name[edit]

On the contents on Malagasy Hippopotamus box it says 4 Oral legends and the kilopilopitsofycode: mlg promoted to code: mg but the section is named Oral legends and the kilopilopitsofy Why is the contents box different and the other sections are the same in both the box and the article section name — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8805:BC82:2300:41F7:68E0:D557:F8A7 (talk) 21:18, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. The English Wikipedia and the Malagasy Wikipedia are entirely separate projects, with no influence over each other. Unless by chance there happens to be an editor here who also edits the Malagasy Wikipedia, there is nobody here who has any knowledge of it. You'll need to ask there, I'm afraid. I've just seen that you are talking about the Malagasy hippopotamus article in English Wikipedia. Sorry! Looking at it now. --ColinFine (talk) 21:54, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
OK, worked round it, by changing the ISO639 3-letter code to the 2-letter one. But it's a bug in {{lang}}: a warning message is appearing where it shouldn't. I will raise it on the template talk page.  Done --ColinFine (talk) 22:12, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Not a bug. See Template talk:Lang § Warning message appears when a 3-letter code is used in a section heading..
Trappist the monk (talk) 23:40, 19 January 2020 (UTC)


Dear Sir ,

Please be kind to inform that how much time would this precisely take to update the company info at Wikipedia ,how to insert picture in updation . — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:09, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

If you are promoting your company, it's not happening. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 23:18, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi there. We have articles instead of 'accounts' on Wikipedia, so please tell us the precise name of the article about which you are enquiring. It doesn't take long to update an article, but please let us know a bit more precise information. Thank you, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 23:19, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Bruny Island[edit]

Recently, I visited the website to see what the origins of Killora, Bruny Island is. I found Adventure Bay's previous name was written as Cooktown. It was Cookville NOT Cooktown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:16, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

You can tag similar issues directly, example: Special:Diff/928567155/936620862. – (talk) 00:14, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
To induce an editor to actually change the Bruny Island article instead of adding a "citation needed" tag, you will need to find a published source (see WP:RS) that has your information in it. Even better: find the source and and change the article yourself to fix the name and add the source. -Arch dude (talk) 00:32, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

January 20[edit]

What is the Purpose of creating a account?[edit]

Hi, Im am good at writing articles..ect. But what is this site more about for users? Another words. what do I do. Do I create articles or edit ones on here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dileot (talkcontribs) 03:29, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Over the course of the last 19 years, more than ten million editors have collaborated to create about six million articles. more than 100,000 unique editors have been active in the last 30 days. Each of us has our own motivations. If you wish to help build the largest and most comprehensive encyclopedia in the world, then Welcome! Take on any task you wish to. You are free to edit anonymously, but by creating an account, it becomes easier to collaborate with the rest of us. -Arch dude (talk) 03:58, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
If you are not sure where to start, you might enjoy Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure. -Arch dude (talk) 04:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanking editors[edit]

Hi all, When I thank an editor for their contribution to an article on its history page, why don't they stay publicly thanked? I can't remember every single time I do this, and at some point it appears that they are ready for further plaudits. The idea that I might have done it before is only mildly embarrassing, but on the other hand some people might remain unthanked for this reason. Cheers, >MinorProphet (talk) 12:07, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Help:Notifications/Thanks#Details and limitations says: 'You can only thank someone for a given edit once. After you have thanked someone for an edit, the "thank" link is replaced by the word "thanked". The "thank" link may reappear later but using it again will not send a new thanks.'
It was me who added [2] the last part based on testing. Somebody added a citation needed. I haven't seen it documented elsewhere but I made a new test now on an edit [3] by PrimeHunter2 I also thanked in 2015. The account did not receive a new thanks notification and the thanks does not appear in the log [4] (the log entry today is for another thanks). PrimeHunter (talk) 12:36, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@MinorProphet: May be the Special:Log can help you. If you choose the 'Thanks log' from the dropdown list and enter MinorProphet in the 'Performer' field, you will get a list of all your thanks to other editors. On the other hand, if you enter User:MinorProphet in the 'Target' field, you'll get a list of thanks to you from other editors. If you fill both fields, you'll see thanks from a specified user to another specified user. Alas it doesn't show the reason for the thank - what edit was thanked for. --CiaPan (talk) 13:06, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you both for your typically swift and helpful replies. @PrimeHunter:, Now I know I can show my appreciation to editors as much as I like and not be worried about being over-thankful, and @CiaPan: I've also found someone via Special:Log who thanked me a long time ago and I never got back to them. Many thanks, :o) MinorProphet (talk) 15:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@MinorProphet: Keep in mind that every time you thank someone, it may alert them in various ways, which can be disruptive. Thanks for minor or routine edits are probably unnecessary. If there are multiple related edits by the same editor, you don't need to thank them for each one – just one is enough. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 15:48, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@AlanM1: Could you perhaps explain further what is meant by "it may alert them in various ways, which can be disruptive."? I enjoyed reading your timely and helpful reply, which made me think some more about the subject of thanking editors. The articles I write tend to be 'minority interest', which get about 5 hits per week. I write them mostly for my own satisfaction, and I try to make them as comprehensive, well-spelled, gramatically correct and well-reffed as I can. If someone makes even a small constructive edit (eg making a WL), that usually means that they have taken the trouble to read the entire article and tried to improve it, and are therefore in some way interested in the same sort of out-of-the-way things as me: in my book that deserves a thank. I don't usually thank people for minor spelling or grammar edits, which anyway doesn't happen a lot. On the other hand, I often manage to type "the the", and one particular editor corrects this for me, for which I thank them, and have learned to watch out for this myself. I believe there is an automated tool to achieve this task, but I can never remember its name. I don't remember thanking anyone for multiple edits, although Special:Log will show me now that I know it exists. It is also possible to thank somone in an ironic way, meaning "I don't agree with your reversion of my edit of 'your' article, and it's really not worth the bother getting upset about it: your opinion is noted": but I have only done this once or twice during my whole time on WP. Anyway, I thank you for your reminders, and I shall only thank you for your welcome contribution if you thank me for this one. PS I also remember acoustic modem couplers, although I've never used one. PPS Would you recommend me for WP:TYS, or is this not the done thing? PPPS What's the oldest edit you made that is still current? Mine's from August 2011. Cheers, >MinorProphet (talk) 17:37, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@MinorProphet: Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo lets you set web and/or email notification for thanks received. The "web" notification adds to the "Notices" list in the top toolbar, which, like the email notifications, can be distracting if one were to get a lot of them. I've known editors to object to getting ping'd, too (probably those that participate in a lot of discussions). I wasn't necessarily referring to myself (it hasn't been a problem for me – I don't get thanked much Face-smile.svg) and I didn't look at your thanks sent log – I was just making a general comment. As far as getting thanks for minor edits, I imagine that someone who does a lot of semi-auto edits to fix things like common typos and formatting errors would probably prefer not to get thanks. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 18:20, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Untitled post[edit]

Moved to new section by MinorProphet (talk) 15:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC), assuming it wasn't directed at any of the participants in the above discussion...

oi you, why are you threatening to delete my account!!!! I love son and would never say anything bad about him so you better stop rn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aydnhasabigwilly (talkcontribs) 14:00, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Aydnhasabigwilly, I can see you're a fan of the Tottenhams which is good, but since Wikipedia articles try to be as neutral as possible we can't say that it is the "best club in the world". We of course welcome your contributions if you can summarize what reliable sources say from a neutral point of view. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:09, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
I've never in my life heard anybody refer to Tottenham Hotspur F.C. as "the Tottenhams", Thjarkur. "Tottenham" sometimes, but usually "Spurs". --ColinFine (talk) 17:13, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
It maybe goes without saying that my knowledge of football is, er, superficial – Thjarkur (talk) 17:19, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Their nickname is the Yids. Here's a great book for fans and non-fans alike to get you started. How Soccer Explains the World. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 00:13, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect picture posted[edit]

Sarah Vaughan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

On Sarah Vaughan's wiki page, a picture of Ella Fitzgerald is posted as, "The Divine One." Sarah Vaughan was often referred to as either the "Divine-One", or "Sassy." Although Ella was also divine, I believe her picture was incorrectly posted on Miss Vaughan's wiki page. Younger fans looking to bone up on their knowledge and appreciation of these two wonderful artists, who are no longer with us, might be unnecessarily confused. Would someone kindly look into this, and make the appropriate correction?

Jazz Fan, Joe — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Joe, there are sevral pictures at Vaughan's article. Which one(s) are you stating to be incorrect? BTW, if you are seeing the results of a Google search, Wikipedia has no control over what they display although they often do so in a way that implies that it comes from Wikipedia. Should this be the case, there is a 'feedback' link at the bottom of the panel in search results. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 15:08, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

wrong "Links to this page"[edit]

For Farrand & Votey Organ Company it shows that 9 articles are linked to my new article I created today. However, it lists the wrong "Links to this page" articles AND as ony 4 items linking to the article. Can someone more technical than myself fix this so it shows the the correct items. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:48, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Doug Coldwell: If you're talking about Special:WhatLinksHere/Farrand & Votey Organ Company, I don't see anything wrong. There are links from the two named founders and a couple other articles, links from your sandbox pages, others related to the DYK nom, etc.. What is your concern? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 16:02, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
When I click here it doesn't show correctly. I got there by clicking on History, then Page statistics for the company.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:18, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@Doug Coldwell: Looks like a bug. I've reported it at phab:T243225. Nice catch. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 17:12, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@Doug Coldwell: MusikAnimal released a fix less than an hour later, and it's pending deployment. Beat that [insert giant corporate software company here]! Face-smile.svg —[AlanM1(talk)]— 18:32, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

How to hide wikipedia searches[edit]

My search history keeps appearing in the search box, as soon as I put the cursor there. I would like this not to happen. I'm sure it's something simple I must just be missing. Suggestions? Thank you! -A. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikialmado (talkcontribs) 18:50, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

It's your browser's autocomplete and websites can no longer control whether it appears. Here are instructions for turning off your browser's autocomplete – Thjarkur (talk) 18:55, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Merge new and old account[edit]

Hello, I've had an account here for many years now and recently i have been unable to log into it, i just created a new username and would like to know if an administrator can retrieve my old account which i prefer since I've edited multiple times with that account. My username for the old account is monkelese. thanks. (Monkelese15 (talk) 19:17, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Monkelese15: All you can do is add a note to your new user page stating that you previously edited using the previous account. RudolfRed (talk) 19:20, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Kamiyah Mobley[edit]

There was a movie and interview on TV a few days ago about the abduction of baby Kamiyah Mobley over 20 years ago, so I came here to see if there was an article about the crime. There is, and it's titled Kamiyah Mobley. I went to the article and immediately noticed a sentence in the opening paragraph that said, "She had been raised under (and now willingly goes by) the name Alexis Manigo." I thought that part in parentheses ("and now willingly goes by") was odd and, more importantly, completely contradicts what was conveyed on the TV programs (movie and post-movie interview with Mobley herself, conducted by ABC's Robin Roberts), so I looked at the source that was attached to see if it verified that claim. It did not, so I removed the parentheses part a few minutes ago. I looked in the history of the article and saw it was added in August 2018 by someone who just stuck that odd part in to an existing sentence. I then looked at that person's talk page and see he/she has been warned repeatedly about adding content without a source. I then looked at that person's other edit in August 2018 and saw he/she had changed the name of the article from "Abduction of Kamiyah Mobley" to just "Kamiyah Mobley" and included this very unusual edit summary: "living individual. while she is famous for having been kidnapped, she is alive and so could go on to do other things later in life. No disrespect to her family or her if they happen to see this." It's the title change that prompted me to come here for help. I feel this title change was wrong and the reason makes absolutely no sense. That editor is basically saying that he/she changed the title to just her name because MAYBE one day she'll be notable on her own. But the article is solely about the abduction case. Based on all this, I have a few questions. Was this an appropriate title change? Can a person have an article about them (with the title being their name only) if their only "claim to fame" is being a kidnap victim? If not, can someone here reverse the title change and put it back as "Abduction of Kamiyah Mobley"? 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:18AE:9870:D055:58D9 (talk) 19:23, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Link to edit in questionThjarkur (talk) 19:27, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
You are correct: the original title followed our guidelines and the new title does not. We probably need an administrator to to do the move-back. And thanks for pointing this out.-Arch dude (talk) 21:42, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
I have moved the article back to Abduction of Kamiyah Mobley. (I have no admin powers.) Maproom (talk) 23:33, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks to all for your help on this. 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:18AE:9870:D055:58D9 (talk) 02:26, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

January 21[edit]

how to stop accidentally editing wiki articles[edit]

i sometimes get messages about editing an article which is something ive never intentionally done, how do i stop this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:44, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

You are not logged in, so we know you by your IP address instead of a user name. The IP address is shared, so different people use it. You are seeing messages intended for those earlier people. You may simply ignore the messages. I better solution is to create a login and use it. It's actually more anonymous than the IP address, and you won't be bothered with this stuff again. -Arch dude (talk) 06:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Question regarding the copyright infringement[edit]

Hi. I got this message when created a wiki page. I have deleted the section of the page where had the infringement issue. Could you tell me what my next step is to complete the page? Thank you very much for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sekigu524 (talkcontribs) 06:41, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

@Sekigu524: Which page? your have not created any page with this account, so we do not know how to help you. -Arch dude (talk) 06:49, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: sorry.I created the page.(I consulted Sekigu524. And Sekigu524 asked a question.) -Castor KakuWakako (talk) 07:21, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Castor KakuWakako:If you are sure you have removed all copyrighted material, then immediately create the article's talk page and contest the speedy deletion, stating that you have removed all such material. Do that now, then we can work on all the other problems. -Arch dude (talk) 07:44, 21 January 2020 (UTC)