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May 22[edit]

Joey Fatone[edit]

Joseph Anthony Fatone JR was in imagination movers in 2010 as joey, a baseball player, for one episode. hes in a few other tv shows that have been left out of the list too. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heffer2005 (talkcontribs) 00:03, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

If you'd like to make a suggestion for an article, please make it in the talk page of that article. For example, if you have a suggestion for Imagination Movers, then make it in Talk:Imagination Movers. Always provide reliable, independent sources for what you say. -- Hoary (talk) 00:11, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
@Heffer2005: Note that IMDB and other sites like it that are user-contributed without professional editorial oversight are not considered to be reliable sources. Also, there are probably lots of cameo roles in which musicians, and other people who are not primarily actors, appear that are not listed in our filmogs. There seems to be a general trend among editors (I think) towards making filmogs more of a selection of significant works, not an exhaustive list of every appearance. This is particularly necessary because of the lack of reliable sources to cite those less-significant works. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:24, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Citing different articles/titles from the same journal[edit]

It's possible to cite different pages from the same source.
How do I do this for different articles or titles from the same journal? Even if it's not necessary and I can just use the page method, leaving the title blank would trigger a 'Missing or empty |title=' error, like this.[1] Is there a way to get around this problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PianistHere (talkcontribs) 03:13, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi PianistHere. {{Cite journal}} is used to cite a specific paper in a journal, which is why requires both title= (the article) and journal=. I would recommend using a different CS1 template: {{cite encyclopedia}} can be used for collections of multiple articles that aren't journals, and for the specific example source above, {{cite report}} seems to be the most appropriate. You can then add the section name or page number with the {{rp}} or {{sfn}} templates like so:[2]:5[2]:§Definition[2]:§III. Status or like so.[3] If you have to cite multiple articles in the same issue of a journal and not multiple sections or pages in an article, I'd just duplicate the reference completely. Alpha3031 (tc) 05:34, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


  1. ^ The state of water resources in the Philippines (PDF). Greenpeace Southeast Asia: 5. October 2007 Archived from the original (PDF) on 16 May 2018. Retrieved 3 October 2015. Missing or empty |title= (help)
  2. ^ a b c The state of water resources in the Philippines (PDF) (Report). Greenpeace Southeast Asia. October 2007. Archived from the original (PDF) on 16 May 2018. Retrieved 3 October 2015.
  3. ^ Greenpeace 2007, V. Status of clean production in the philippines.

Can i say to people that i wrote the page if i actually did? Also can i tell them my youtube channel so they can subscribe?[edit]

this is what i wrote

Chinese lunar calendar festivals
Chinese lunar calendar festivals

China is the most popular country in the world and has many amazing festivals. I will be telling you about the main chinese festivals that you can go and see for yourself. They are amazing!

What is Chinese new year? Chinese new year is a celebration where they celebrate, you guessed it, new year. In chinese new year they celebrate with costume dragons and instruments. Chinese new year is held on the 12th feb every year because on the lunar calendar 12th feb is new year. A lunar calendar is a calendar based on the monthly cycles of the Moon's phases (synodic months), in contrast to solar calendars, whose annual cycles are based only directly on the solar year. The last chinese new year day is on the 26th of feb and is otherwise known as the lantern festival.

Background Chinese new year is held on the first day of the year on the lunar calendar and on our calendar it's held on the 12th feb. The origin of the Chinese new year dates back to the Shang Dynasty (17th–11th century BC). Shang Dynasty: the imperial (royal) dynasty (a family full of strong imperial leaders) ruling china from about the 18th-12th centuries BC. It began as the result of a fight against the monster named Nian (a monster that liked to eat children). Nian appeared at the end of every year and people set off firecrackers to get rid of it. Gradually, the custom of expelling the monster on the last day of the year became an annual festival and it is still celebrated every year.

The last day of Chinese New Year is a special celebration called the Lantern Festival. This festival first came about during the Han Dynasty. Lanterns were lit in honor of Buddha. Other traditions on this day include guessing riddles (which began during the Song Dynasty), eating rice dumplings, the lion dance, and the dragon dance.

Dragon Boat Festival falls on month 5 day 5 of the Chinese lunar calendar (around mid-June). During this traditional festival in China, people customarily eat rice dumplings. The Dragon Boat Festival dates all the way back to the Warring States Period of the Zhou Dynasty. Legend has it that a famous poet named Qu Yuan killed himself on this day by jumping into a river when he learned that his homeland had been conquered. A dragon boat is a boat that is shaped like a dragon and has a costume dragon in it and it has drummers and someone steering and is typically used in a chinese festival. This festival takes place on the fifth day of the fifth lunar month. Traditions on this day include dragon boat racing, eating rice dumplings called zongzi, and wearing a perfume pouch to ward off evil spirits.

Costumes and props Dragons are a commonly used costume in chinese new year because of the dragon dance. The dragon dance is is a form of traditional dance and performance in Chinese culture. It is most often seen in festive celebrations. The dance is performed by a team of experienced dancers who manipulate a long flexible figure of a dragon using poles positioned at regular intervals along the length of the dragon. The dance team simulates the imagined movements of this river spirit in a sinuous, undulating manner.

They also often use lion costumes in chinese new year because it is a form of traditional dance in Chinese culture and other Asian countries in which performers mimic a lion's movements in a lion costume to bring good luck and fortune. The lion dance is usually performed during the Chinese New Year and other Chinese traditional, cultural and religious festivals. It may also be performed at important occasions such as business opening events, special celebrations or wedding ceremonies, or may be used to honour special guests by the Chinese communities.

In the Dragon Boat Festival they do a dragon boat race that is approximately 1,500 feet long. In the Chinese new year and the lantern festival they play the drums. In the Chinese new year and the lantern festival They dress up as dragons because it is a religious thing. In the Lantern festival they throw lanterns up in the sky and they seem as if they can fly and it fills the sky!

The lantern festival

Food Vegetables are commonly used in chinese cultural festivals because they sound like “money” in chinese language. People in northern China typically will eat dumplings (jiaozi) on New Year's Eve. This occurs because 'jiaozi' sounds like a word meaning 'bidding farewell to the old and ushering in the new.' in Chinese.

Dumplings are always made before midnight and eaten during the last hour of the old year and the first hour of the Lunar New Year. Some people like to wrap a one-yuan, fifty-cent or ten-cent coin in some of the dumplings, as a token of good fortune for those who eat them. This is said to ensure good luck and prosperity in the New Year.

Southern China produces rice, so traditionally the southern Chinese usually eat Niangao (rice cakes) to celebrate the New Year. This belief derives from the Chinese pronunciation of rice cake as 'niangao', a homophone for a word meaning a higher level of life. Niangao is made of glutinous rice powder and can be cooked by frying, steaming, stir-frying or boiling. With the development of the social culture, eating Niangao is also popular now among some people in north China during the Chinese New Year.

Fish, usually of a local variety, is an important item on the dinning table of thousands of families on the eve of the Chinese New Year. Fish is pronounced 'yu' in Chinese, with the implications of having more than just a basic need each year. It is also a present exchanged between relatives and friends during the Chinese New Year. In southern China, some people just eat the middle part of the fish on the New Year Eve, leaving the head and tail until the next day to symbolize completeness. Meanwhile, it is particularly important that when fish is placed on the dining table, its head must be at the elders, as a sign of respect.


Hopefully now you know about how important festivals are to the chinese people. Also the festivals aren’t something you want to miss.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Phantom09754YT (talkcontribs) 04:06, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Phantom09754YT: The goal of Wikipedia is to write encyclopedia articles, not to promote yourself or your YouTube channel. I see that your recent edits have been reverted. As part of the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, you can start a discussion on the article talk page, such as Talk:Chinese New Year, to discuss your ideas to improve the articles as well as provide reliable sources, to help build consensus on improving the articles. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:52, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
As GoingBatty points out, Wikipedia already has an article on Chinese New Year. And it avoids (and will delete) additional articles on any given subject: See Wikipedia:Content forking. ¶ Additionally, you have to write with a high signal to noise ratio. Sample:
"What is Chinese new year? Chinese new year is a celebration where they celebrate, you guessed it, new year. In chinese new year they celebrate with costume dragons and instruments."
This says nothing more than
"Chinese new year is celebrated with costume dragons and instruments."
And no, please do not attempt to promote your Youtube channel. Attempts will be deleted. -- Hoary (talk) 05:16, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

About awrds[edit]

Why star parivaar and dada saheb awards we can not add on celebrites wikipage Because awrds is really important achivments so its really necessiry Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheetal parmar (talkcontribs) 08:10, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

In this series of edits you added awards to the page about somebody. Princepratap1234 removed mention of them as "unnotable". I don't claim to know anything about them (though I do know that there are many awards and that most aren't notable). If these are notable, perhaps you could create articles about them. Reliably sourced articles, of course. This would demonstrate notability. -- Hoary (talk) 09:55, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Remove Prod BLP box from article[edit]

i want to remove prod blp box from article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goutamrazpurohit (talkcontribs) 09:19, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Goutamrazpurohit: You are free to remove a BLP prod as you see fit; but you should explain your actions in either the edit summary or at the article's talk page. See WP:BLPPROD for more information. Please note that other deletion methods exist and can be uitlised even if the PROD is removed. In certain circumstances a page can be re-proposed as a (non-BLP) PROD. If you want more specific advice please link to the page concerned. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 10:09, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
@Goutamrazpurohit: This appears to be about Draft:Murari lal pareek; I have removed the PROD notice as it is not applicable in draftspace. Please make sure it is properly sourced when re-submitting. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 10:30, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

A very active user with privileges over me, is going to delete again a page about a legal political party which I had recently restored[edit]

A very active user, called Ontzak, with privileges over me, is going to delete again a page about a legal political party in Puerto Rico, called "Movimiento de Reunificación de Puerto Rico con España", which I had recently restored. I found today, May 22nd 2020, that this page had been deleted previously by another user called Antur arguing the reason A4, irrelevant article. Then, I just restored the page arguing that the page wasn't irrelevant as my sole action proves, but then again, the user Ontzak, which appearently happens to be an antispanish basque secessionist, has claim criterion G9 to delete again the page of this legal political party because, according to Ontzak, this page doesn't meet the minimal criteria to stay in Wikipedia. I would like to know which are those criteria as I find both actions of deletion to be motivated by ideological reasons. I would like some impartial administrator to read this and, if case, reduce privileges to these users which, in my opinion are abusing of their rights and are distorting the impartiality of Wikipedia. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Himno Anonimo (talkcontribs) 09:58, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Himno Anonimo Your edit history indicates no edits to any such article(perhaps your edits were to the Spanish Wikipedia, a different project?)- but the mere existence of any organization does not merit that organization a Wikipedia article, it must meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization, as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 10:10, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
If your edits were to the Spanish Wikipedia, you will have to resolve this dispute there, using whatever processes they have for doing so. 331dot (talk) 10:11, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
user:Ontzak is also mainly active on Spanish Wikipedia,and has very little English Wikipedia history, so that's probably a good guess. Meters (talk) 10:14, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
enwiki does not have a current deletion criterion A4, and criterion G9 is rarely used, so it does seem likely that this refers to eswiki, not to enwiki. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Kennedy of Knocknalling Genealogy[edit]

I have a copy of a genealogy published in 1883 titled Kennedy, Knocknalling Branch, 1142-1083. It was prepared by J Douglas Kennedy, Scarthwaite, Lancaster, 1884 It is about 30 pages long. Is this something suitable for Wikipedia and if it is, how would it be added?

Jerry2318 (talk) 10:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Jerry2318 If you are asking if you want to put the text of this publication on Wikipedia, the answer is no- Wikipedia is not for posting sources themselves. 331dot (talk) 12:21, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Jerry2318, and if you're asking about using it as a source, Wikipedia doesn't normally concern itself with genealogies. -- Hoary (talk) 12:23, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Jerry2318: it's possible that you could upload it to Wikisource: I don't know what their criteria are for accepting material. --ColinFine (talk) 12:48, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
@Jerry2318: You can add it at Wikisource. As a separate issue, the next question is whether or not it constitutes a "reliable source" that you can cite at Wikipedia. A work of this type if published today would be a "vanity" publication. At the time it was probably published "by subscription". Go on over to the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard to ask about this. My guess: you can cite it for facts but it does not help to establish notability. -Arch dude (talk) 14:20, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
@Jerry2318: The actual process is to scan it and add it to Wikimedia Commons as a djvu file. Commons is used by all Wikisource and Wikipedia projects. After going to that effort, you can in theory then cite the commons file directly from Wikipedia articles, but a small amount of extra effort of adding it to Wikisource will make it much more usable. You would then cite the Wikisource instead of the djvu at Commons. -Arch dude (talk) 17:20, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Please help[edit]

Why when I add or edit something does it disappear even though I’m documenting it??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhkyley5 (talkcontribs) 14:53, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Looking at your edits to Winthrop University, you changed the formatting of section titles to all caps, which goes against Wikipedia's Manual of Style and the change was therefore reverted and you added one person to the Alumni section for which no article exists and without providing a reliable source and this was also reverted, as there is no evidence of notability. Mikenorton (talk) 15:06, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
I have just reverted your addition of another person to the alumni for the same reasons. Mikenorton (talk) 15:09, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
@Rhkyley5: There are multiple links to 'get you started' in the welcome message at your talk page; please study those carefully. Please note, lists of alumni etc. should only contain persons who are the subject of Wikipedia articles; I.e. are notable in the Wikipedia sense and should typically be supported by independent, reliable sources. Biographical articles such as the one you created for Paul Vicknair will not be accepted into the encyclopedia without sourcing. Eagleash (talk) 15:23, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Link to an image; but don't display it[edit]

What's the wikitext markup or template to place a link to an image page without displaying the image? Like, if you wanted to link to a fair-use image with a particularly good rationale on a talk page to demonstrate how to craft a fair-use rationale? Every way of linking it I can come up with then displays the image, which is a violation of fair use on a talk page. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 15:10, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Prefix the name of the image with a leading colon, like [[:File:Example.jpg]] (renders as File:Example.jpg) * Pppery * it has begun... 15:11, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you! ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 15:13, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk page of Tara Reade[edit]

There was an AfD for Tara Reade which decided to merge it into Joe Biden sexual assault allegation. Talk:Joe Biden sexual assault allegation now has a notice which says:

The contents of the Tara Reade page were merged into Joe Biden sexual assault allegation on 17 May 2020. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page.

However, Talk:Tara Reade redirects to this page, so it is unclear if any content from the talk page was lost. I'm not sure what should be done about this, but I think at least there should be a link to the Afd on a relevant talk page.—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 20:23, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Naddruf the Tara Reade article has been moved along with its talk to Draft:Tara Reade. Hopefully everything will be tidied up when the deletion review is concluded. TSventon (talk) 22:52, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
@TSventon: Yes, but there is no link on either of those pages to the AfD for Tara Reade, or the deletion review (not to be confused with the AfDs for Joe Biden sexual assault allegation).—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 23:46, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
@Naddruf: Generally the best person to ask about an AfD close is the AfD closer, in this case Black Kite. If you ask them at Talk:Joe Biden sexual assault allegation you can include the links you are asking about. I would expect the merger notice to be corrected once the deletion review is concluded (and if it weren't corrected you could ask the deletion review closer). TSventon (talk) 05:41, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

List of Banks[edit]

Back in 1996 First Interstate Bank was merged with Wells Fargo Bank during the hostile take over. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:E800:6000:4084:13FA:E7E2:C7B4 (talk) 22:34, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, that what it says at First_Interstate_Bancorp. If you see another article with an error, you can start a discussion on that article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 22:58, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Where to report a user with multiple accounts?[edit]

Hello. Could someone please let me know what the best place is to report a user who has multiple accounts? The user is not attempting to hide this fact, so I don't know whether WP:SPI is the right place or not. Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 23:08, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

1292simon, SPI is the correct location... If there is a particular reason why it's no good, try WP:ANI, but that's not really the first place to go to. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 23:16, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi Lee Vilenski, thanks for your help. I'll post it at SPI as a starting point. Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 00:33, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
@1292simon: You say they aren't hiding it so note Wikipedia:Sock puppetry#Legitimate uses. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:48, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, I misread - I thought it said misusing multiple accounts. There are some uses that are completely within policy. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 11:04, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Lee and PrimeHunter for the follow-up info. Yes, I'd checked the list of legitimate uses and none of them apply in this case. Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 22:30, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Fix reference[edit]

Can you fix the reference i Made Please. (talk) 23:13, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

This has already been fixed by @Lee Vilenski: RudolfRed (talk) 23:19, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Find edits in history page by edit summary[edit]

Is there a tool that allows you to find edits in a history page by edit summary?--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 23:28, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@SharabSalam: The best thing I can think of is to click the "View history" and then use your browser's find feature (e.g. CTRL-F in Google Chrome) to search the edit summaries. If that doesn't find the edit, you can click "500" to show the last 500 edits instead of the default 50 and try finding again. If that doesn't work, you can click "older 500" or change the number in the URL from "limit=500" to "limit=1000", and keep going from there. Happy hunting! GoingBatty (talk) 01:13, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks!. I had this idea but I thought if there was a tool it would have been easier.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 01:16, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
There is WP:BLAME, but I don't think it helps here. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:16, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

May 23[edit]

Can’t create a WP book[edit]

Why is it that every time I start creating a new book and have added pages to it, whenever I come back the next day it is gone??? Yesterday at the top of my WP screen it showed the horizontal Book creator bar and displayed the link Show book (11 pages) but when I clicked on it today it displayed as Empty book and now shows it as (0 pages). What’s the deal? Can anybody help me with this please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KarlderGrosse843 (talkcontribs) 00:43, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

@KarlderGrosse843: Click the "Contributions" link at the top right to see your recent edits. Among those I see Book:Go Rio River Boat Tour. Go to that page, and in the the third header box is an option to re-edit the book in the "Book Creator". That should take you back where you were yesterday. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:23, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict) There have been issues for years with the PDF creator. Perhaps this link will help. Help:Books TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 09:27, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

How can I propose the creation of pages[edit]

I want to create the pages of two organizations and a public figure but I don't know how to suggest it. For example, in Knowmad Institute it appears in a page with a red link, but I don't want to create it...I would like to help but I don't know if I would do it alone — Preceding unsigned comment added by JazzShadow (talkcontribs) 00:43, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

@JazzShadow: I can't find any article with the words "Knowmad Institute". If you want to suggest someone else creates an article, you can try using Wikipedia:Requested articles. GoingBatty (talk) 01:16, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Requesting an article is usually a waste of time. So DIY! You don't seem to have edited before (or anyway under the name JazzShadow). Starting an article when you have no experience of improving other articles isn't an easy feat. Try improving and augmenting articles that already exist and that interest you. Then, when you've had some practice, embark on Draft:Knowmad Institute (if you can do so from reliable, independent sources). -- Hoary (talk) 01:20, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Apparently, it's called the "Nomad Institut".--Quisqualis (talk) 03:34, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
@JazzShadow: I am also about to leave a message on your talk page with useful links on how to edit on Wikipedia, and also how to create a new article.  Seagull123  Φ  17:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC)



I'd like to know if someone could edit the First Kurz government, Bierlein government and Second Kurz government articles so that "Cabinet of Austria" in the infobox takes a cap just like in Kern government. I haven't managed to do it myself. Many thanks!Sampiresse (talk) 01:23, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Done with a change of template--Quisqualis (talk) 03:28, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Delete duplicate article[edit]

Hello! After creating the article Villeneuve-Saint-Georges (Paris RER), I had mistaken the meaning of "move the page" and ended up with a duplicate of the page 'Montgeron-Crosne'. Can you help me delete the Montgeron-Crosne (Paris RER) page? Thanks.A smart brainy man (talk) 12:53, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

@A smart brainy man: It appears that Montgeron-Crosne station still exists and Montgeron-Crosne (Paris RER) has been deleted. GoingBatty (talk) 14:22, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Files on Commons not coming through[edit]

File:P132-RUS.svg and File:P158-RUS.svg are not coming through to ENWP even though they are on Commons (commons:File:P132-RUS.svg and commons:File:P158-RUS.svg). If I try to upload these files locally, the upload form says the files already exist on Commons.

Other files in the same category work just fine P92-RUS.svg and P600-RUS.svg. I feel like I'm missing something obvious. –Fredddie 17:01, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

@Fredddie: I believe this is a known bug - see the Phabricator link I added. GoingBatty (talk) 17:09, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
@GoingBatty: Thanks for the link. Glad I'm not seeing things. –Fredddie 17:16, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Reporting IP socks[edit]

What is the recommended course of action when finding an IP address that is highly suspicious of being a blocked user? WP:SOCK says "Logging out to make problematic edits as an IP address" may be a form of sockpuppetry, and WP:Blocking policy says "User accounts or IP addresses used to evade a block should also be blocked", but WP:SPI says "CheckUsers will not publicly connect an account with an IP address per the privacy policy except in extremely rare circumstances". I have in fact seen requests for SPI of IPs declined because of the privacy policy. So where should they be reported? Nardog (talk) 17:03, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

You should still take this to SPI - if it's blatent and correct, the IP/IP range will also get a block for evasion.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 17:09, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
@Lee Vilenski: Thanks. Is SPI still the venue if the last block (of the master or one of its socks) happened more than six months ago? Nardog (talk) 17:33, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Nardog, yes. Although technical evidence will no longer likely be held, behavioural evidence can still be evaluated there, and it keeps a good record of if suspected socking has occurred. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 20:24, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
@Alex Noble: Thanks, but I'm still not clear about when a block becomes "stale". Let's say a user was indef-blocked years ago but kept contributing as IPs all the while until recently, should I report them or would that be considered a clean start? Nardog (talk) 21:34, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Nardog, Technically it doesn't. Blocks are usually indefinite, and clean starts aren't permitted where there are active bans, blocks or sanctions. In practice though, if a user blocked a long time ago has returned, and has clearly changed, I'd personally not shout about it; the point of blocks is to prevent damage, and if the user has really changed then this is now irrelevant.
But in these cases it would hard to find if sockpuppetry was occuring anyway. If a sockpuppet has been noticed as being a sock, they have probably been making the same mistakes they were banned for. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 21:47, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Why is it necessary to provide a source for something that is its own source?[edit]

For example, if I were to write something like "On an episode of abcde shown on channel 54321, which aired on 1 Jan 2020, Smith said he did not like apples", I can't see why a citation would be needed, since the source would be "abcde, channel 54321 airing on 1 Jan 2020". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncpwiki (talkcontribs) 21:18, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

There is such a template as {{cite episode}}, which should be used when implicitly citing a television show as the subject. However, Wikipedia summarises what reliable sources say about a subject. If no other sources talk about something, it's likely not pertinent. On the above, why is Wikipedia using this information? It seems like WP:INDISCRIMINATE information. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 21:37, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
@Ncpwiki: You generally shouldn't have to write the "On an episode ... 1 Jan 2020" part; just "Smith says he does not like apples.<ref>{{Cite episode |...}}</ref>". If it's truly important to have the context of the exact episode info in the prose, then yes, you would duplicate the information (though probably in a different format in the prose than the what the {{Cite episode}} produces). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 22:57, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
@Ncpwiki: Please see WP:PRIMARY. Primary sources are to be used sparingly. This includes interviews. Technically, your in-text full reference to your source fulfills Wikipedia policy, but our convention, built up over the course of the last 19 years, is to use the word "source" to mean something that uses the <ref>...</ref> syntax. Failure to follow this convention just makes work for our poor volunteer editors. Also, in the future some brave soul may want to create tools that extract sources from the wikitext. These tools would miss your in-text source. -Arch dude (talk) 23:54, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

This page is a fraud:[edit]

His obit in the Washington Post discovered the truth behind his actual identity, he was not Cuban or Latino or an immigrant: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlos Parker (talkcontribs) 23:21, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article is not a fraud. It accurately presents what reliable sources said. His story is a fraud. The Washington Post story that corrects his backstory appears to have broken less than three hours ago. Someone will update the article now that we're aware, or WP:SOFIXIT yourself. Meters (talk) 23:44, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Requested rewrite on article's talk page, which is where this should be to find knowledgeable editors on this subject. Meters (talk) 23:51, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

May 24[edit]

Television shows by topic[edit]

I notice that there are two categories Category:Television series by topic and Category:Television programs by topic. "Television series by topic" is a subcategory of "Television programs by topic". Does anyone know the difference between the two categories? When I clicked to edit the talk page, it said I should ask here since not many people watch category talk pages. I suppose television programs can include documentaries and specials, where television series includes series of episodes, but this isn't really clear. Some of the categories that are in "Television programs by topic" but not "Television series by topic" still include episodic television series. Should the categories be merged or renamed to clarify the difference? Nine hundred ninety-nine (talk) 01:36, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Question re interwiki linking[edit]

Hi. I am trying to learn about linking to other wikis. I seem to be going a bit in circles. I did find this page: Help:Interwiki linking, I still have some questions though.

  • If I want to link to the Spanish-language Wikipedia, I do understand that the prefix to do so is this prefix: [[es:]]. however, I want to find out if there is a list somewhere of the prefixes that would be used for each wikipedia in a different language. could you please tell me if such a list exists?

Please ping me when you reply. thanks.

--Sm8900 (talk) 02:14, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

@Sm8900: See List_of_Wikipedias#ListMeters (talk) 02:23, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
oh! well, that does seem to answer that question very helpfully. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 02:25, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
@Sm8900: Note the difference, though, between es: and :es:. The one without the leading colon is invisible on the page and was used to indicate that the current page is the enwiki article about the same subject of the specified eswiki page (e.g. [[es:Cristóbal Colón]] used to be on our enwiki page Christopher Columbus), but is generally deprecated, with that functionality having been migrated to Wikidata.
The latter type, with the leading colon, is used to create a wikilink that points to any page on another wiki (like es:Cristóbal Colón). The template {{Ill}} is used for a creating this second kind of wikilink that points to an article (or a redlink) both on enwiki and articles on other language wikis (see the doc for examples). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 08:39, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
@AlanM1:, thanks for that data! that is good to know. I did take a look at the guidelines for {{Interlanguage link}}; I did not know about that template before this. that sounds highly useful.
Re the differences between the links with a leading colon and without, that is highly interesting. I think that sounds comparable to how we use the same format for categories; i.e. the leading colon makes it a link to the category itself, without making any modification to the page where that link is located, while using the link without the leading colon is a way to make a change to the page itself, i.e. to place it in a category. so this is all highly useful, to increasing my own knowledge of this. feel free to add any details, if you wish. thanks!!--Sm8900 (talk) 12:36, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Sm8900, the same colon trick works for displaying a picture ([[File:Amazingphoto.jpeg]]) versus linking to that picture, or more precisely to the Wikipedia page for, and displaying, that picture ([[:File:Amazingphoto.jpeg]]). -- Hoary (talk) 09:40, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
hi Hoary. that is very interesting, and good to know. thanks!!! by the way, here is another question, below.
  • could anyone please tell me the prefix to use for linking to the "Simple English" Wikipedia? thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 11:11, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
It's simple:. Meters gave you a link to a list in the first answer to your original question, and a list is also available at meta:List of Wikipedias. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:20, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

it's "simple" as in simple:United Kingdom. It's also the same as the first part of the URL for each wiki. {{Ill}} is of a benefit, as it produces a REDLINK, but displays that there is an article on the subject in another language. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 12:44, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Deceased wikipedians[edit]

How does wikipedia know their editor has died? I saw so many pages with candles on it, indicating there are dead. Inactive accounts will automatically mark as dead? Do they contact their families of editors? Ram nareshji (talk) 02:40, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Usually the families or friends contact us. Some are personally known by other editors. Rarely they are well-known enough to appear in traditional news media. Rmhermen (talk) 04:28, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
WP:DWG may be of interest. bibliomaniac15 04:45, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

question re odd wikimedia site[edit]

hi. i just found this site:

could you please tell what this is? I've been looking up various resources tonight, and have gotten a bit fatigued from all my efforts, so any digging around to figure out the scope or purpose of this specific site, feels a little too abstruse for me, right now. please ping me when you reply. thanks!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 02:44, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

@Sm8900: It appears to be a blog aggregation site: "Planet Wikimedia is made from the blogs by Wikimedia contributors. The opinions it contains are those of the contributor. ". RudolfRed (talk) 03:48, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
See meta:Planet Wikimedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

John Proctor[edit]


I am a historian and I have done extensive research on the Salem Witch Trials, and on John Proctor in particular. I have tried to add vital information to your site several times and it is always removed. John Proctor was objectively the sexiest DILF in all of Salem in 1692. All of the Goodies wanted his goodies. He was bangin and slangin.' His children weren't the only ones calling him "Daddy."

I have attached a reputable source. Please stop deleting my edits. You can't run from the truth, Wikipedia.

- Abby Williams Historian The University of the West Indies at Cave Hill, Barbados

THIS IS A REPUTABLE SOURCE — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:15, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Convenience link: John Proctor (Salem witch trials).   Maproom (talk) 06:04, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
For the reference of other users who might be tempted to take any of the above seriously, see "Abby Williams" and the IP User's link which is, at least, apparently harmless. Thanks to ClueBot NG and HMSLavender for dealing with this at the article. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 07:44, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Copyright violation?[edit]

A bot has flagged an image I uploaded as a potential copyright violation:

The Flickr user has it under a Creative Commons license and specifies that it's fine for it to be reused as long as he's credited, which I did so in the image description. Where did I go wrong here? Dr-ziego (talk) 10:06, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Dr-ziego. The licence on Flicker is by-nc-nd, which prohibits derivative works and commercial purposes. That is not compatible with Wikimedia commons, which requires WP:CC-BY-SA. --ColinFine (talk) 10:48, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks - I'll remove it. Out of curiosity, why does Wikipedia not qualify for that license, when it's not commercial and the image isn't modified? Dr-ziego (talk) 03:10, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
@Dr-ziego: because we want to be the free encyclopedia, and not the kind-of-free-but-not-really encyclopedia. While we ourselves might not modify or commercialize the image, we want our re-users to be able to do anything they like, including that. We use the definition of free cultural works to define what free means. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 04:11, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Gotcha. I have a new appreciation of why so many celebrities have rather unflattering amateur flash photos taken at panels and red carpets as their Wikipedia photo! Dr-ziego (talk) 14:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Gaurav Khanna (badminton)[edit]

I was created article Gaurav Khanna (badminton) . As there is already one Gaurav Khanna . How I can rename the article and put a note that for actor redirect to his article. Also help me to increase the content.Sukant Kadam (talk) 10:36, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Sukant9993. You should not Move the existing article without a consensus that there is not a PRIMARYTOPIC: I suggest discussing it on Talk:Gaurav Khanna. In the meantime, you can use a Hatnote on each article. --ColinFine (talk) 10:52, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input[edit]

I followed the format for inserting an external link,

Link label

but it was flagged as an error. What was wrong?


Kermit Rose — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kermit1941 (talkcontribs) 20:36, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

@Kermit1941: You also added a set of empty <ref>...</ref> tags under the link, which was causing the error. I have removed them. GoingBatty (talk) 20:50, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Looking for a hatnote name template[edit]

I'm currently editing an article, Ayyathan Gopalan, where I am beginning to suspect that Ayyathan is the subject's family name. I want to put a hatnote saying "The subject's family name is Ayyathan" and I could have sworn some articles (particularly East Asian ones) had a template that did something similar. I've tried looking for templates like {{lastname}} and {{last name first}} through search to no avail. Anyone know the template that calls for that? (please {{ping}} on reply)Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:11, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

It may be worth looking to see whether Category:Hatnote templates for names has anything relevant. --David Biddulph (talk) 23:58, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
David Biddulph, thanks for the link. {{Indian name}} seems to be what I'm looking for. Face-smile.svgTenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:20, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Permission to recreate page Anjunadeep[edit]

I have read the reasons for the deletion of article "Anjunadeep (failure to mention noteworthiness, relevance, A7, etc.) and I was wondering since the article is locked from creation how I could go around and request permission to create the article carefully (using references to mention relevance and notability) without making the same mistakes that were previously made. By the way, the page was deleted in 2015, five years ago. Chris.alex.gomez (talk) 16:08, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

If you submit a draft through the AFC process, a reviewer will decide whether it is acceptable and will handle to processes of moving to mainspace if appropriate. --David Biddulph (talk) 23:51, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
David Biddulph, I don't think this is a good idea. Very often, pretty feeble drafts are approved in AfC, and later go to AfD. The article was deleted by Sandstein, who remains an active editor. Chris.alex.gomez, perhaps write on User talk:Sandstein that you propose to create a new draft, and that when you think it's ready, you'll ask for their OK. See what Sandstein says. -- Hoary (talk) 01:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

May 25[edit]

Edited article[edit]

I’m unable to upload edited article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngcongolob (talkcontribs) 01:26, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ngcongolob: I see you successfully added a reference to the Information access article. Could you please provide more information on what you're unable to do? Thanks! (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) GoingBatty (talk) 01:32, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Marketing and Market, mark it Round and Round, CfD, Help, CfD, etc[edit]

I was redirected to CfD but I've been there. I've been here, and WP:REFUND too.

Somebody entrusted with superpowers did a blatantly wrong rename. As of this moment, Category:Market research companies by country has sixteen subcategory entries, all named Marketing research companies of (name of country: Australia, Brazil, Canada, etc.). Can the help desk bring into the picture someone who is authorized and willing to fix this? A simple RENAME (back to) Marketing Pi314m (talk) 05:13, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@Pi314m: You can make a request at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy (WP:CFDS). The C2C criterion would probably apply in this case. As I see it, however, all of the subcats should really be renamed to "Market research companies of ..." in accordance with C2D, as the corresponding Wikipedia article is located at Market research, not Marketing research. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 06:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Looking for help cleaning up a table[edit]

List_of_common_Chinese_surnames#Surname_list The table seen here has become incredibly bloated, and I'm not even sure where to start reformatting it so it can be more readable. As far as what I had in mind, I believe that the majority of the information in table should either be excised or moved to Wiktionary.--Prisencolin (talk) 09:02, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Clearly a lot of work went into the creation of this table: this by itself is not sufficient reason for it to be kept as is, but I think it's sufficient reason to argue for any partial deletion on the talk page and wait for responses before executing partial deletion. (You could draw people's attention to your proposal by posting a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China.) Please don't refer to partial deletion as "reformatting". -- Hoary (talk) 09:34, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Where is a list of templates?[edit]

I have spent 5-10 minutes searching WP for a complete list of templates (like [dead link] for a dead link) and cannot find one. Such a list would be helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by David spector (talkcontribs) 13:20, May 25, 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Template index would be a good place to start Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 13:27, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
@David spector: If you go to Template:Dead link and scroll to the bottom, you'll see many more inline cleanup tags. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) GoingBatty (talk) 14:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Apparently, while there exists a general index of templates, there is no list of all templates. Such a list special page can be constructed automatically using WP mechanisms (there are many similar lists that are constructed automatically). May I request that some expert editor please create such a list special page? I'd like to be able to search such a list to find a template to fit a situation quickly, instead of trying to figure out what the headings in the index page ( mean. Or should I move this request/suggestion elsewhere? Thanks, David Spector (talk) 17:13, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Are you looking for Special:AllPages/Template:? (Although there are so many templates it's difficult to look through literally all of them)? * Pppery * it has begun... 17:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

No, this page fails. It does not even contain the common "dead link" template. David Spector (talk) 17:50, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@David spector: You can also use Special:Search to search through the templates, if you can guess at a word or two that might be in the template name or the template text. For example, this search lists the 124 templates whose name includes the word "copyright". -- John of Reading (talk) 17:23, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

No, this search fails to find the "dead link" template. It returns too many search results. Again, what is needed is a special page listing all templates. David Spector (talk) 17:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@David spector: There are around 540,000 pages in the template namespace. That includes subtemplates and documentation but a complete list of templates on a single page would not be practical. A huge page could still only show titles so finding the right template would often be difficult. Special:AllPages/Template: shows 345 at a time in alphabetical order so you may have to click "Next page" more than 1000 times to find a template. {{Dead link}} is eventually there like all other templates but we have too many for that feature to be useful unless you know the start of the name. If you look for a template for a specific purpose then use the normal search box by writing template: in front of the search. Or use the "Search in" box on search pages to select "Template" under "Add namespaces", and remove "Article" if it's selected. Most plausible searches I tried gave {{Dead link}} in the top-3 results, or jumped directly there via the exact name or a redirect. If you are interested in cleanup templates like {{Dead link}} then Wikipedia:Template index/Cleanup shows around 450. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:23, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

The only reason I can think of for the existence of 540,000 pages of templates is that 'templates' includes items other than article decorations like [dead link]. Okay, in that case, given that it is impossible to create a single page of double-curly-bracket items, how about a hand-curated list of the top (most frequently needed) 50 or so decoration templates of interest to WP editors? An advanced editor could probably create such a list from their memory! There may already exist a perfect location in the WP: namespace for such a page. This would be a very valuable addition to the resources available for WP editors. David Spector (talk) 20:42, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

There are indeed many other types of templates. Templates are just a convenient way to store something in one place so it can be used in multiple places, often with parameters to specify details of the use. They are like functions in other programming languages. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:02, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
David spector, templates are used for lots of purposes on Wikipedia. From your question, I gather you're looking for what are usually referred to as in-line clean-up tags. Have you seen the Template:Inline cleanup tags navigation box, which is also listed at the bottom of the Wikipedia:Template index page? It should contain what you're looking for. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:58, 25 May 2020 (UTC) PS This is the same box as referred to by GoingBatty above. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:59, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Paul 012, Thank you! This is exactly the answer I was hoping for to my original question. The only thing that seems missing from this list are the abbreviations, such as 'dl' for 'dead link'. This list should be sent to all new editors and included in editing tutorials (I never noticed it before); it is so useful! David Spector (talk) 21:25, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Editing Assistance to remove "Promotional Language"[edit]


I would like to ask for assistance with a banner placed on a Wikipedia profile saying the content "reads like a press release or a news article or is largely based on routine coverage or sensationalism." I adjusted this profile over a year ago to abide by all Wikipedia guidelines, including siting all information with reference points and since the information has not largely changed since that time I cannot understand why we are being asking for another edit. The Wikipedia User named 虹易, who is making these requests seems to be hostile and has called for removal of both the English and Chinese profiles for the individual. I would appreciate the assistance of another Wikipedia Administrator to help us amend the profile as needed and remove the banner the user has placed. All information on the profile is verifiable and true and based upon readily available sourced information.

I appreciate any assistance you can provide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gowiki1 (talkcontribs) 13:29, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Gowiki1 I would first correct your language in that Wikipedia does not have "profiles". Wikipedia has articles. When you say "us", who is "us"? 331dot (talk) 13:35, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the language correction. I am unable to detect any information in the article that is promotional, all information is true and valid and can be verified by various information sources. Johnny Hon is a notable figure in business, governmental and philanthropic organizations in both Hong Kong and China as well as the United Kingdom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gowiki1 (talkcontribs) 14:58, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Who is "us"? Accounts cannot be shared. 331dot (talk) 15:00, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
@Gowiki1: Hello! After you created this post at the Help desk, a lot of helpful information was posted on your talk page. After you read that information (and clicking the blue links for additional information), please let us know if you have any questions about Wikipedia's policies. If you have specific questions the Johnny Hon article, the place to discuss them is the article talk page: Talk:Johnny Hon. GoingBatty (talk) 15:04, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Gowiki1, phrases like Hon is experienced and Hon 'now has four daughters and one son (emphasis added on the latter) convey respectively promotional and casual tones, which are not suited to be on Wikipedia. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Not us, just me. I would like to try to contribute to the amendment of this article to ease any areas that make it sound promotional. I welcome the assistance of any wiki administrators that can help with this. As I read it, the article states the life, career and areas of work of Johnny Hon and makes reference to the reasons why he is a person of note. The article is supported with various online references to support all statements made within. Thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gowiki1 (talkcontribs) 16:11, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@Gowiki1:You have given several editors the impression that you have a paid-editor (WP:PAID) relationship of some sort with Johnny Hon, or that the very least that you are an interested party (WP:COI) in some way. If so, you must declare the relationship. If not, then under these circumstances you should declare that no such relationship exists. Please make such a declaration, one way or the other, on your user page or your user talk page before you do any more editing on that article. After we know what the relationship (or lack thereof) is, we can help you improve the article. -Arch dude (talk) 16:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

CREATING A LINK that goes to another spot under the SAME heading[edit]

I'm trying to figure out how to create an internal link within an article. I want to be able to click onto a symbol, which takes one to another spot, within the same heading. For instance, see Paul Martin (illustrator). I put an ✲ under the heading "Fisk Tire Boy" (after word "commissioned"), which leads to another ✲ near the end of that heading. I'd like to be able to click onto the first ✲, and for it to lead to the second (which gives further detail). An anchor type link is needed? This seems to be extremely uncommon in WP articles. I realize that going to a ref/notes is the common way, but wanted this exception. Thanks. Jim Percy (talk) 15:22, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

JimPercy, have you thought about using {{anchor}}? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:29, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

I've tried many different things incl. anchor. I'm probably not going to figure it out unless knowing the exact code to use, OR being referenced to another WP article, which does the same thing. (Hence, I could then use that one as a guideline.) Jim Percy (talk) 16:00, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

JimPercy, what I mean is, have you put {{anchor}} at the second ✲, given it a name like foo, and then linked the first ✲ like so: [[#foo|✲]]? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:04, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps I should clarify; {{anchor}} is a template. You can click on the word to see its documentation. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:05, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
@JimPercy: The usual approach to adding a note is to create a reference group. Each reference in the group needs a "group" parameter. All refs without a "group" name are plain old refs. You add an additional "reflist" near the bottom of the article for each group. In your case you only need one named group, and it will initially have only one footnote in it. See WP:REFGROUP. -Arch dude (talk) 17:10, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

I sort of figured that. I couldn't really insert the two lines into the heading section w/o breaking up the continuity, and didn't want to give it a footnote status either. I did insert an anchor template, but I didn't do it right and or it can't be done. Jim Percy (talk) 17:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@JimPercy: Fixed. You didn't use an {{anchor}} template; see my diff here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:59, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, that seemed to work. It didn't go right to the spot (like was my thinking), but rather goes to the appropriate line in the article. So, that's good. Thanks. Jim Percy (talk) 18:05, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

How do I make a suggestion for a page?[edit]


Hi all,

This article has an error in the tables. It fails to include the number of voters who were "Don't know" or "Refused to answer". For the latest 1 News poll this was a massive 16%, so must be shown in the results table.

However, I'm a new Wikipedia user and don't want to mess it up. I also don't have the time to do it. How then, do I leave an action/suggestion in here?

Cheers Geoff — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geoffnz1 (talkcontribs) 21:28, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@Geoffnz1: The place to make a suggestion for the Opinion polling for the 2020 New Zealand general election article is the article's talk page: Talk:Opinion polling for the 2020 New Zealand general election. Thanks, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 22:30, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

My Wikipedia page does not appear on google search when l search it's title(name of the page)[edit]

Hey,here is my Wikipedia page: .It has been successfully accepted by Wikipedia but the problem is that unless l use the exact Url to acess it on google, l can't find it on google by it's Title "NazzKing".Please somebody help me to solve this so that whenever somebody types "Nazzking" it will appear on top without somebody having to use the exact url. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramsey555 (talkcontribs) 21:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ramsey555: New Wikipedia articles are not available to Google for indexing until they are reviewed or until 90 days have passed. The article NazzKing has been nominated for deletion, so a review will not be undertaken until after the deletion discussion. -Arch dude (talk) 22:24, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Regex matching in templates[edit]

Is there a relatively simple way on Enwiki to use regular expressions to check input parameters in templates? Or is this only possible using Lua (which seems to have its own thing that isn't really regex)? --Paul_012 (talk) 22:05, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Paul 012, I believe the WikEd editor gadget has an option for searching by regular expression. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:55, 25 May 2020 (UTC)