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Can I force a category (added by a template) to appear last on a page?[edit]


I created a template (on SVWP) that is used in some infoboxes. I was going to add categories in the template, but since the infobox appears first in the articles, the categories appears first in the list of categories at the bottom of the article.

Is there a way to force a category to appear last on a page? It feels like "the most important" categories appear first, and adding these categories to the template seems to just mess things up.

(I hope this was understandable) -abbedabbtalk 14:49, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

@Abbedabb: No; categories are listed in the order in which they appear in the page source, the only exception being that hidden categories are listed after the normal ones - if you have "Show hidden categories" enabled at Preferences → Appearance, that is. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:33, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

DEFAULTSORT for persons with double surname[edit]

Christina Hoff Sommers is defaultsorted by "Sommers, Cristina Hoff", but in citations, I see her references rendered as "Hoff Sommers, Christina" . So, what would be the correct defaulsort key? Staszek Lem (talk) 18:26, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

I changed defaultsort to "Hoff Sommers, Christina", but still would like to have a second opinion.Staszek Lem (talk) 20:37, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
@Staszek Lem: The principal question is, is Hoff a given name or the first word of an unhyphenated two-word surname? As an example of the former case, consider David Ogden Stiers, who sorts as {{DEFAULTSORT:Stiers, David Ogden}}; for the latter case, consider Helena Bonham Carter, who sorts as {{DEFAULTSORT:Bonham Carter, Helena}}. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:18, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Sorry I did forget to mention that Hoff is a surname as well. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:30, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
In fact, I found a detailed advise in Wikipedia:Categorization_of_people#Ordering_names_in_a_category. I don't understand how I missed this in the first reading. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:36, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Temporary maintenance holdings cat[edit]

This category is popping up a lot recently on articles, I had a question about it on my userspace talk page, I asked another admin, we have no idea why it's popping up on articles. Is there something wrong with the cat? Is it broken? I couldn't work out how to remove it was on Dean Austin, or other pages. Can anyone explain whats going on? Cheers. Govvy (talk) 13:08, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Category:Temporary maintenance holdings
It's from Template:Tooltip, but has now been removed from that template redirect.
More discussion at WP:Village pump (technical)/Archive 164#Temporary maintenance holdings.
--Pipetricker (talk) 15:02, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2018[edit]

Davenport, Davenport is not scott county nor is it quad cities, it is Davenport located in Davenport county. it is Davenport county thank you... please revise the page to fit this discription we would apreciate it. The Mayor of Davenport Also needs to be revised it is Ricky Davis. thank you we apreciate it here in Davenport have a good day. Jesus Alverde (talk) 23:26, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Category. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. @Jesus Alverde: NiciVampireHeart 23:32, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


There is an article Joan Bodger that has categories like "20th-century Canadian women writers" and "20th-century American women writers". Can I include the categories like "21st-century American women writers" because Bodger died in 2002? Kraose (talk) 09:35, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

You'll probably get better responses (more of them, and better quality) by asking this on either Talk:Joan Bodger or on the talk page for a pertinent Wikiproject (i.e. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women writers or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Literature; or, failing that, on Wikipedia:Village pump. This is a page for discussing improvements to the Help:Category documentation page.
That being said, according to the article, she has no works published in the twenty-first century, her last work being published in 2000, the last year of the twentieth century; so I would say she does not meet the requirements to be a twenty-first century writer. TJRC (talk) 20:57, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for resolving the issue. I will post on WikiProjects next time. Kraose (talk) 08:14, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Creating New Categories[edit]

How is a new category created? The Help page is not clear on this subject. The closest the article comes to stating how a new category is created is the following sentence.

  • They are implemented by a MediaWiki feature that adds any page with a text like [[Category:XYZ]] in its wikimarkup to the automated listing that is the category with name XYZ.

So is the process automatic, and the new category will automatically appear after X period of time that the category is placed into an article (appearing as a red link for X period of time)?

I'm asking because I am working on the Spanish version of Wikipedia, but there does not appear to be a category similar to the English version Category:Vehicle registration plates of South America. If the process is not automatic, then how does this happen?

See the External links section (Enlaces externos) of the following Spanish articles for examples of what I am referring to above.

    Matrículas automovilísticas de Ecuador
    Matrículas automovilísticas del Perú

Since English is my primary language it is easier for me to post this question here.

Thanks! Zcarstvnz (talk) 12:49, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

I've fixed the references to categories in the above comment, but it's a redlink (i.e. there is no such category in en wp) and a quick look at Category:Road transport in South America hasn't found it. DexDor (talk) 15:01, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
@Zcarstvnz: Help:Category#Category page definition says: "New categories are created by creating a page in the Category namespace." The blue text is a link to Wikipedia:How to create a page. Category pages can be created in the same ways as other pages, e.g. by making a red link to the category, clicking the red link and saving something. It's possible to add pages to a categoery before the category page has been created. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:17, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your help and explanation. The page has now been created. Zcarstvnz (talk) 18:37, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Zcarstvnz, you've created es:Categoría:Placas de matrícula de vehículos de Sudamérica, but (assumining that eswp has similar rules to enwp) that category needs to be categorized in higher level categories. DexDor (talk) 20:49, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2019[edit]

may i edit on wikipedia (talk) 20:57, 3 February 2019 (UTC) (talk) 20:57, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. DannyS712 (talk) 21:09, 3 February 2019 (UTC)